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Old 10-14-2013, 01:21 PM
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As far as increases in autism even though thimerosal has been removed, some say autism has gone up; some say it has decreased. I don't know who is right at this point.
Why don't you know? Even if you don't know why haven't you formed an opinion? Can you not determine whose information to trust? Why not? What criteria are you using to try to verify the information you are reading , and are both sides of this particular issue really so equally compelling? Why is it even difficult? Does nobody who is interested in this topic try to track autism diagnoses?
I won't form an opinion because, as I said, I don't know if the rate of autism has gone up or gone down. I don't know whether the Amish have something to teach us. I don't throw opinions around because they don't mean much if you can't back them up. But there is a growing body of evidence that there is a correlation, and further studies need to be done.
You throw opinions around all the time without being able to back them up. You formed the opinion that these anti-vaxxers are less biased and/or more trustworthy than the scientists doing actual work in this area. You formed an opinion that a whole bunch of studies are flawed without understanding or identifying or verifying any flaws yourself...again trusting the sources you've decided are more likeable.

Now you've formed an opinion that there is a growing body of evidence of a correlation, even though you've presented no evidence, just opinions and anecdotes.

Your trusted sources are in disagreement as to whether autism rates are increasing or not...so you are unable to hold an opinion because you don't know who you trust more. That is the only explanation because you rely on others to tell you what your opinion should be. This is why you have been unable to answer the simple question "What criteria do you use to verify the veracity of someone's statements" because your criteria seems to be whether or not you already agree with someone.
I am listening carefully to the worries of immunologists and toxicologists who are concerned about vaccine safety. I do not believe that these isolated studies are able to identify how these vaccines may be able to get into the cell and possibly change the structure of DNA. They just don't know, and the fact that the pro-vaxers presume that everything is perfectly fine with administering more and more vaccines to the already loaded schedule where they are now giving 36 doses to children before the age of two, is very cavalier and a dangerous attitude to have. If anything it should make all of us wary instead of just assuming that science has all the answers because they don't.
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