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Originally Posted by LadyShea
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And if you don't like talking to me, you know the solution for that. You aren't mandated to talk to me.
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You frustrate me, that's all. I obviously get satisfaction debating you. In doing so I have sharpened my research skills, so thank you for that. But when you say certain things, I get irked because you come off like you have all the answers which you don't. You have told me all along that I'm making assertions when it comes to the book, which I'm not. You have told me that greater satisfaction is a tautology and modal fallacy, which neither are. You even have used mockery at times to further your personal agenda which is to discredit Lessans. In your effort to be a critical thinker, you have actually gone too far and it has backfired on you. |
LOL, more assertions. You've never refuted the charge of tautology (and in fact conceded that the satisfaction principle is tautological) and have never refuted the charge of modal fallacy...other than saying, as you did here, "is not". |
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It might be a tautology in the sense that whatever one chooses is in the direction of greater satisfaction, but you are using this as a means to discredit his entire presentation, which it doesn't. A tautology does not a false proof make, nor does it prove that what comes from this understanding is useless.
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
It is tautological. No, that doesn't mean it is false nor does it mean it is useless, it does mean it is completely unfalsifiable...it can't be tested in any way.
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That is very true, but it does not explain why this is an unimportant triviality in so far as this discovery goes. You are so completely invested in micromanagement that you cannot see the forest from the trees LadyShea. You look for little mistakes that do not impact what is being said. You've done that all along, but it has failed by any objective test.
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
If it can't be tested, people must either accept it or reject it based on faith, or feelings, or trust or whatever. That's not science, that's simple belief. It's therefore not a discovery, it's a tenet.
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But sometimes it cannot be shown this way. Are you hard of hearing, or reading for that matter?
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
I have no interest in discrediting Lessans...he has no credit to lose. My agenda is to point out bullshit where I see it, and you and Lessans are swimming in it.
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There you go again badmouthing him. What do you mean he has no credit to lose?
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Originally Posted by Ladyshea
In order to be discredited, one must first have a good reputation or respect. Lessans had those things as a person, and a father, and a salesman and a pool player...sure. But we aren't addressing those, we are addressing his ideas expressed in the book. There is no good reputation or respect for him to lose in that area.
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Oh heaven help me here. Why have I spent so much time with you? I don't know. All I know is that we are completely opposites in the way of arrogance. You are so arrogant, I can't penetrate your wall.
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The fact that you call this knowledge bullshit shows me what a self-pontificating person you are.
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The fact that you call it the one and only answer to world peace, and the most important thing ever thought by anybody, is also pontificating. Why is it okay for you to express your opinions in a pontificating manner but it's not okay for me?
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I am not saying this is the only way that can contribute to peace, but this is the ultimate answer to world peace.
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I think it is bullshit. Prove me wrong and your pontification becomes warranted
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You can think whatever you want. I am not here to prove that this is a discovery to someone who thinks they are the epitome of knowledge that can even decipher what is true and what isn't. You haven't proven me wrong; you have only added further proof that your opinions are just that: opinions.
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You obviously are not as smart as you think you are. You are too full of yourself, and it's really sad because you have the capability of comprehending this work if you kept an open mind and didn't use your present knowledge and understanding to make this determination.
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Originally Posted by LadyShea
Maybe, but this is an ad-hom. My calling bullshit is no less correct just because you don't like me.
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That is not true. I actually like the person you are, but I believe you are wrong in this instance, and I will not allow you to badmouth my father just because you think you have identified a false conclusion.