[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

No Spacemonkey, they do work. Something is wrong with the way you are interpreting what I'm saying. I didn't say the same photons that arrive at Earth are the same photons that are already there. This is like pulling teeth, I swear.

Then you have obviously misread the questions and need to re-answer them. Because what you actually said in your answers was flatly contradictory. I asked you about the photons at the film when the Sun is first ignited, and you answered that they were traveling photons that cannot be at the film until 8min after the Sun is ignited. That is what you actually said, whether you meant it or not. Obviously that doesn't work, but it's the only answer you've given.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

But these photons are constantly being replaced. So I'm not sure what photons you're referring to.

I just told you EXACTLY which photons I'm referring to. I don't know how to make it any clearer. Replacement of photons by other photons is irrelevant, for you need to first explain how these photons got to the film before you can start worrying about them being replaced by any others (which will also take 8min to get there).

Originally Posted by peacegirl

In this model, the photons would not have any information in them such that we need to think about traveling blue photons before red...

You've done it again.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Forget the word "instant", okay? It could be nanoseconds...

Nope, not nanoseconds. It takes 8 minutes for light to travel 93 million miles at just over 11 million miles per minute. Again, simple mathematics.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I'm really not flip flopping. The photons did travel and they are different photons that are at the eye every single second.

We're not talking about the eye but only a camera film, and we're not talking about any photons other than the ones at the film when the Sun is first ignited. Did THOSE photons travel the actual distance from the Sun to the Earth?

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I'm trying to tell you that the light is traveling from the Sun to Earth...

But that's the exact opposite of what you just said ("...which does not require light to travel the actual distance to Earth..."). Are you still talking about the light I was asking you about (the photons at the camera film when the Sun is ignited), or are you here talking about completely different light when you say it is traveling from the Sun to the Earth?

Originally Posted by peacegirl

If our eyes were afferent we would be waiting to interpret the light, but how can we decode an image from the light when the inverse square law would turn into full spectrum light?

The light we are talking about started as, and has always been, full spectrum light, so it cannot change into this at all - and certainly not due to your made up nonsense about the inverse square law, which is something you still don't understand.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Time and distance don't apply in this account even if it takes a nanosecond for the light to travel. For all intents and purposes, there is virtually no delay.

Time and distance DOES apply, because the light we are talking about needs to change its location by a DISTANCE of 93 million miles, and it can ONLY do so by traveling at the speed of light, which takes 8 minutes of TIME.

Things that actually don't apply to what you are being asked about: Absorption, reflection, non-absorbed partial spectrum, information, eyes and brains, traveling images, and different photons (from those at the film when the Sun is first ignited).