[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

Actually, I do. You don't because you still think he was knowledgeable.

You have no idea.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

These words have hurt people because they stratisfy us into layers of value. That's why people compete so desperately to be smarter or more beautiful than the next person because they believe this gives them greater value as individuals. This all comes from the belief that this intelligence, this beauty, cannot be denied because it is part of the real world, which it isn't.

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

Again, words can condition us regardless of how we see.

Not in the way he was describing. No matter how often a child is told how wonderful a certain musical genre is, if that child doesn't like it, he cannot be conditioned to like it, although he might listen to it if that's the in thing to do. No matter how often a child is told how delicious a certain food is, if he doesn't like it, he cannot become conditioned to like it although he could acquire a taste for it, which is not the same thing. No matter how often a child is told how wonderful a perfume smells, if he doesn't like it, he cannot become conditioned to like it, although his taste may change as he gets older. If a child hears over and over how beautiful this person is, and how ugly that person is, he will actually become conditioned to seeing this particular subset of features (and all those that come close to this artificial standard) as beautiful and the other subset of features as ugly, all because of words that are projected onto the screen of undeniable substance. This could not occur if the eyes were a sense organ. You never really took the time to study this chapter in depth.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You haven't taken the time to analyze this knowledge at all, you were too anxious to discredit it. I hope you one day take the time to actually study it. You will be pleasantly surprised as to its authenticity.

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

But I have taken the time to study it. That's how I know it to be worthless nonsense.

Is that why you don't even understand the two-sided equation, or why compatibilism is ridiculous unless you are trying to fake reconcile two positions that cannot be reconciled? You are too quick to toot your own horn.