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Originally Posted by ChuckF
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Originally Posted by peacegirl
I said that he didn't make a truth claim. He used the term 98% to mean "a lot".
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You have also said that there is "some truth" to it. I am simply asking what the factual basis of that truth is. What data support this claim?
I can accept your bare assertion that he used the term "98%" to mean "a lot" rather than what he actually wrote. That does not trouble me. What is the factual basis of the claim that "a lot" of homo-sexual intercourse comes into existence only because boys and girls are denied the opportunity to indulge with the opposite sex and fall in love? What data support that claim?
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He had already said there could be a genetic predisposition, so that was already a given. He mentioned some (not all) reasons why a person may choose someone of the same sex due to environmental factors. He was not standing in judgment.
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I believe if he had to do it all over again, he would not have made this comment about homosexuality because he would have realized that people would go after him for this. He wasn't perfect Chuck. He was a human being who sometimes made mistakes. You are using this to discredit his discoveries by saying he could have been wrong about them as well. He wasn't.
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peacegirl, I haven't even brought up other claims or said that he must be perfect or that he wasn't a human being - you have introduced all of this.
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But you are, and you know it. You are trying to find flaws in his writing in order to dismiss his discoveries.
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I am simply curious about the factual basis for the claim that "98% of homo-sexual intercourse comes into existence only because boys and girls are denied the opportunity to indulge with the opposite sex and fall in love." What data support this claim?
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I already told you that the 98% he was referring to may have become homosexual due to environmental influences in order to find love, which is our birthright. He did not include the people who are hardwired to desire the same sex. Let it go Chuck. This has nothing to do with the validity of his discoveries.
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peacegirl, how can this claim be evaluated if there can be no inquiry into its factual basis or the data that support it? You find truth value in it - what is the factual basis for that finding? What data support it?
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This has gotten so completely off the beaten track, I have no desire to continue this aspect of the conversation.