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Originally Posted by viscousmemories
See, this is why I should just avoid political discussions entirely. Even when I do my level best to make what I think is the most self-evident, vanilla observation possible I run into someone who vehemently disagrees.  I think I'll stick to blathering incoherently about philosophy, where I can be courteously ignored. |
vm,
Contrary to what others have expressed, in my opinion, yours is the most sensible post in the whole thread. I should follow your advice and stay out of this section altogether. Unfortunately, to do so means I also have to stay out of law related topics.
Clutch Munny,
I disagree with you about many of the things you have said in this thread, but I choose not to respond to them. It's not that I don't respect you or your opinions, it's that there is a lot to respond to here, and I choose to respond to certain remarks and not others. I hope that you recognize that we all tend to do that to some degree or other, and for various reasons. I do agree with you that several posters made rational responses which I did not address directly. Chalk it up to a combination of volume of posts and points raised, my own weariness with the larger meta-issue I raised here (whether you agree that such an issue exists at FF or not), and that I really don't feel an obligation to respond to everything. I suspect you don't either, and that's every poster's prerogative of course, in my opinion.
Everyone else,
I apologize for my unnecessary remark to Godfry. He and I have a history here of unfortunate exchanges, and I had no business resurrecting it, particularly not in a thread that had nothing to do with him or me.
As for the claims of hypocrisy, I'm sorry, but I just don't see them on my part in this thread. I'm concerned about the disproportionate level of vitriol which in my opinion is common here at FF towards ....hell, I don't know, but it was evident in the OP. The insults in bold particularly stood out to me as somewhat representative of a loose pattern of posts here, scattered over the board's history, and that's what I was addressing. Does that mean I cannot be critical or even snide in political or meta-issue discussions in this thread without being hypocritical? If you think so, then we are indeed disconnecting and misunderstanding each other, and again, I suppose that provides me another good reason to refrain from commenting on political issues here. I called no one in this thread childish names, as did the OP called Karen Hughes. I don't see the hypocrisy in that regard. Also, I don't see how I could possibly have dragged the tenor of the OP down, as it was already at the level of playground insults from the first post. I did something to change the direction of it towards a meta-discussion, and that my doing so brought on even more vitriol and rhetoric in some of the subsequent posts (but not all or even most of course) was ironic to me. Hence, my attempt to end my participation with Q. E. D.
I did provoke Godfry deliberately, and I shouldn't have. I'm sorry for that.
CH