Sorry for the hit and run post, but it's been black history month for me so I've been reluctant to come back to this discussion for fear of getting off track.
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Originally Posted by erimir
And well, sure, there's an element of vitriol and using it as a shorthand for a particular type of anti-trans bigotry or activism.
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This is the essence of my remark. Aside from Wikipedia, every article I've found about 'TERF's uses the term interchangeably with 'anti-trans', 'transphobic', 'trans-hating' or some variation of those ideas, and I don't read any hate in maddog's comments. Totally willing to admit that may be my own bias.
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Originally Posted by erimir
When you say "in this case", are you referring to me? Are you saying that *I* use the term "TERF" to refer to*anyone who disagrees with trans activism on*any*point? Why do you say that, might I ask?
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I did mean to imply that, yes. Because (again, in my experience and apart from the more staid definition in Wikipedia) every instance of the use of the term to describe someone has been bound to an accusation of hate.
To be clear it certainly seems to me that (taken very literally) the term applies to maddog. I just don't think she deserves to be painted with the 'hate' brush and as I said she outlined her views in great detail. So at best the use of the label didn't add any value, and at worst it could be interpreted as a slur.