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Old 10-14-2004, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: race, the n word, cracker historical context and hate crimes

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Originally Posted by livius drusus
You disappoint me, beyelzu. I never created any such "evil white man" chimera and I don't appreciate having my point (or Tim Wise's point) caricatured. If you have nothing to say about the article, fine, but your post doesn't even begin to rebut its arguments which are no more grounded in the instrinsic depravity of white people than they are that of black people.
first,

allow me to apologize for the word choice. I couldnt think of a good phrase to use, obviously I chose poorly.

but, I will probably have to caricature Tim Wise's point anyway, as I feel that it is long on rhetoric and short on meaningful facts.

are there race problems in a america, most certainly.


hispanics only complete highschool 66.7 percent of the time and blacks only 82 percent of the time.

from http://nces.ed.gov/pubs99/1999082.pdf

there is definitely a problem, but I find arguments of institutional racism to be weak, because it seems to me that it is just saying, hey we dont know why this is so, so it must be racism.



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In 1997, young adults living in families with incomes in the lowest 20 percent of all family incomes were nearly 7 times as likely as their peers from families in the top 20 percent of the income distribution to drop out of high school (table 1).
from the same site.

it seems very likely to me that income plays a large role in race dynamics in america
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