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Old 10-21-2004, 08:46 PM
ApostateAbe ApostateAbe is offline
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Default Re: Are they ashamed?

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When I heard Kerry bring up Cheney's daughter to argue his position about homosexuality, I cringed. It makes almost everyone cringe. It is one thing if her dad talked about it to clarify his position on the matter, but it is another thing if a political opponent brings it up as if to bolster his opposition to Bush and Cheney. If it is a debate, then the personal embarassments of your opponent's family should be off-limits, and Kerry, as an experienced debater, should have been keen on that.
on the other hand

I think the

"how the fuck can you be opposed to civil liberties for a certain minority when your daughter is part of that minority"

is a very valid point.
Yes, but there was numerous other valid points that Kerry could have chosen. Talking about your opponent's family to bolster your own position should not have been necessary. Nobody wants that.
I disagree, played properly, which it wasnt, the point was the hypocrisy of the republican "family fucking values and religious right"

Plus it could have made some bigoted fundies not vote for shrub which is a good thing.
Do you really think there is a way to play it right if you are going to bring in the sexual orientation of your opponent's running mate's daughter in a televised debate? I just can't imagine how that can come off right no matter how you say it.
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