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Originally Posted by Angakuk
There you go again. You are practically a walking advertisement for black & white thinking.
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You do not know me very well. If I have a single thought here it is that dividing Americans is bad. Dividing people in general is bad when they fight over such matters.
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Originally Posted by Angakuk
Point 1. Most, if not all, of the displays in question were donated, not provided for by public funds.
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But are maintained by them. I know, there is one in my town donated by the FoE.
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Originally Posted by Angakuk
Point 2. Insisting on the removal of those displays which meet the Supreme Court's conditions is an act of advocacy on behalf of a particular belief. That belief being that any display of or reference to the 10 Commandments is de facto an endorsement of a religious belief. Effectively, you are conceding that the display of the 10 Commandments necessarily means what those who advocate position #1 intend it to mean.
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You are using 'belief' in two decidedly different ways here. Again, I don't want my beliefs pushed on anyone! Do you get told much that you shouldn't believe in a god? See many athiest shows on TV? What is the benefit of posting divisive materials in government building and on publicly-funded property? Why is this good and fair - or do you not care?
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Originally Posted by Angakuk
Point 3. I agree that there is a delicious irony in the preoccupation displayed, by a certain variety of Christian, for the public display of the 10 Commandments. But, as you say, that discussion probably belongs in another thread.
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I've participated in a few of those discussions already and they are interesing to say the least. Perhaps I'll start one tomorrow as I'll soon be off to bed.
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Originally Posted by Angakuk
Point 4. While I agree that #1 is false, you are going to have to work harder to demonstrate to me that #2 is true. It's a classic example of a bifurcation fallacy. It is not necessarily the case that either position is true. Unless, of course, you are addicted to thinking exclusively in black & white terms. Then there are always only two options and one must be true and the other false.
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At the very least, the appearance of an endorsement is there. Does the Hindu feel he will get fair treatment in a courthouse with the 10C's posted? Gotta sleep.