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Old 06-29-2006, 04:02 AM
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Default Re: What Democrats should be saying

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That's quite a piece of rhetoric about a “comprehensive plan”, if the subject of the webpage is actually merely an outline. If you know where I can get a more detailed version, let me know.
Well, it wouldn't be incredibly baffling if a political party employed some rhetoric.

But what you might do to get "a more detailed version" is to look at what specific Democrats say on specific occasions about specific issues. Some, no doubt, always stick to cautious rhetoric. Others have been advancing specific plans on everything from troops withdrawals to alternatives for dealing with Saddam -- generalizable to how they plan to act in the future on matters of international rogue states. Some even said specific things about how to deal with North Korea. Like, in a big televised debate or something.

But let me guess... that's not a plan! And do Republicans have to play by the same rules, as far as explaining how, exactly, their proposal to invade and overthrow is supposed to issue in happiness and count as a plan? Let's see:

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Turn on the news and you will probably see more specifics about the plan than the powers that be intended for you to see.
Ah. No, then.

And is any detail from the Dems sufficient to count as an actual plan?

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This establishes a plan to increase the ranks of the military. That's a good start. How do they plan to use a beefed up military?
Apparently not. Looks like the "missing link" fallacy to me. (As in, every time a fossil is found to fill some creationist-alleged missing link, the creationist looks and now sees two more gaps.)

I said, because there was a whiff of it in the air, that it would be unfortunate if this was all just an exercise in floating standards: Dems held to different ones than Republicans, as far as whether they have a real plan. But that's very much what it looks like now.

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I would like some assurance that the Democrats actually do have a better plan, and won't wind up doing something just as dumb as the current administration.
Well, quite apart from the positive plans that you gloss or ignore, there is at least this: When you're in a hole, "Stop digging" counts as a good plan all on its own.
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