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Old 01-11-2005, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: Nihilism vs. Existentialism

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Sorry, I got lazy.

They are identical at a certain point. In the meantime, they are different, but that difference is temporary, you might remember me always saying 'you will one day never have lived'. It's not a common concept to think about time in this way.
Mostly because it's wrong. Spread out spacetime, like a map. Can you see me? I'm there, in a certain region of that map. I trace out a line, if you like, which has a finite length of spacetime.

If you are treating time any differently to space, you are doing something wrong in your analysis. :)

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This is where the 'practicality' part of my nihilism comes in. What you are saying is true, but remember I stated nihilism makes no commentary on reality itself. Only on us. So while I agree that we believe what we do because of the deterministic chemistry&biology in our brains, that is not relevant to us.
But deterministic chemistry and biology (and physics!) in our brains is us. I don't distinguish between myself and reality.

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A paradigm all humans must surely have is that we must have a rationale for what we consciously believe. So when we turn that paradigm on ourselves, we - or at least I - find the will to live wanting. That isn't to deny the fact that there is indeed a rationale for why we possess that will to live, it denies that there is any reason to pursue it simply because we possess it and - in fact - that there is reason not to.
I don't understand. You seem to be saying that there is no reason to follow a desire. Any desire. But part of the concept of 'desire' is that a (rational) system will act to fulfil those desires.

If you don't act to fulfil your desires, I don't think they're really desires. You're using a word which appears to be the same as the word I am using, but lacking the most important property.

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