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Old 01-12-2005, 07:44 PM
maddog maddog is offline
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Default Re: Act Like Christians

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Originally Posted by maddog
Jeepers, you say that as if only "Christians" can possibly "get" that helping one another should not be burdened with a price. The PRINCIPLE of charity requires that, WHOEVER does it -- Christian or no -- should not "exact a price" for the act of kindness. Otherwise, quite simply, it's not charity, not virtue, at all.
Right.

My point isn't that no one else can or should do this, or that no one else does... But that it's absolutely sickening for Christians not to, because that teaching is really fucking clear.
And MY point is that it's absolutely sickening for ANYONE "not to," because the "teaching" -- i.e., the very principle of charity itself -- is a teaching of all societies, not just of Christianity, and it is a principle that belongs to EVERYONE, not just to Christians. However, because Christianity, as a doctrinal system, contains so many elements which are antithetical to one another -- such as "charity" coupled with proselytization/conversion, or, indeed, such as "universal salvation . . . EXCEPT for most of humanity," and even then that salvation is CONDITIONAL on things that you cannot yourself have any control over (such as giving up your mind/conscience [you MUST BELIEVE in ME; you CANNOT come to the Father except through ME]), or such as that God's "love" includes the necessity of torturing the objects of that "love" in hellfire for all eternity for simply being human -- it is ABSOLUTELY UNSURPRISING, rather than "absolutely disgusting" to find that Christians, of all people, don't practice true, unconditional charity. Their doctrine makes them schizophrenic and unable to understand unconditional love; their own God's so-called "love" is absolutely conditional.
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