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Old 01-20-2005, 04:59 AM
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Default Re: So Condi Rice as Sec. of State

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Originally Posted by FormerFundie200419
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Originally Posted by godfry n. glad
I'm just smug.

Thirty years ago, I took shiploads of crap for suggesting that the idea that women in power would do wondrous things was presumptuous and rather unlikely.
Maybe your opinions were somewhat....biased....

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Women in power are hardly distinguishable from men in power.
Yes, especially when they are imitating men in power.

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They seem to be just as misguided and venal. All that "talk-talk" about how women would improve politics was just so much bullshit.
Not necessarily. When women copy men in power, they behave as men and make the same mistakes as men. War is a male invention; Rice is simply following what she knows, and towing the party line.

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They're all bush league.
You summed up the problem quite nicely.

By the way, I used to be excited about Rice, even wanting her to be President. But that was only because I was a Republican feminist at the time. It didn't take long for me to realize that most women don't get far in the Republican Party (unless they tow the party line very, very well).
I think your ideas of women are much more insulting than godfrey's. You are asserting that many women today are simply aping men and unable to strike out on their own, as opposed to godfrey's "everyone is equal in their aptitude for poor leadership and misfeasence".

War is a male invention? Good grief--how would you ever prove that? War (competition for resources and dominance, even violently) seems to be a natural part of the biological world, nothing human male invented about it.
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