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Old 01-20-2005, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: So Condi Rice as Sec. of State

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Originally Posted by godfry n. glad

I don't think we are disagreeing. You just seem to have taken offense at the manner in which I expressed myself. At least that's how I'm interpreting your response.
Wait--was my flip little "equal opportunity for ineptitude" or whatever I said the part where I take offense? I'm not offended--I think that myself. It's probably that I said "much more offensive. . .than godfrey's"--as in godfrey's opinions are right (heehee, because I agree) and FormerFundie2004's seem to me to be a negative portrayal--much more so than her perceptions of your/our opinions being negative. I shouldn't post when I'm tired, because I make no sense--or the sense I make is not what I'm trying to make. I don't know what my excuse is going to be for this post, though.

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I'm pretty much in support of the feminist position....it's just that thirty years ago, many feminists (and I won't even try to guess whether they were a small minority or not) expressed the smug conceit that once more women became actively involved in the political process and rose to positions of influence, that somehow the nations which allowed them such access would become more peace-loving and compassionate. I questioned that conceit then and paid for it with nasty reactions (rather like yours, wildy) because I had the temerity to doubt the wonderful prospect of women in power.

Power corrupts...men and women alike.
I understand--and I think the women as peace loving nurturers is not rooted in reality. It's a gender stereotype/role--and women shouldn't be bound to that or told that they're just imitating men when they don't conform to that role. (As I felt FormerFundie2004 did.) I'm sorry that you think my reaction was nasty--that wasn't my intention, I just didn't say what I meant to say somehow.

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(...and, I did not say that males suffer all the horrors of war, but there are disproportionate numbers of males out there with missing limbs and abused psyches, thanks to their being the prime fodder for the war machine. Not to mention the dead.)
livius pretty much described what I'm thinking, but in a way that is actually communicating instead of garbledness.
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