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Old 03-10-2005, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: I'm so fucking embarrassed to be an American

First, the title of the article quoted is misleading--this is not a death penalty protocol. It has been a tool for anti-dp people because the Vienna Convention is pretty much ignored in this country (well, I'm sure not for business-suited types, but for everyday people)--people arrested don't know to ask to see a rep from their country and I'm sure that the gov doesn't volunteer that info to foreign nationals. Also, according to the protocol, it doesn't have to go to ICJ if both parties agree within the two months following a complaint--it can go to an arbital tribunal of some sort which might even be a domestic court, for all I know.

Anyway, like others have said, this is just more do as I say, not as I do for us here in the US. We're not withdrawing from the Vienna Convention, oh no, just from the part that gives it much bite. Goodness knows that you don't have a chance here within the borders with an international law argument.
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