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Old 04-22-2005, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: Spoiled rich teenager commits fraud - you gotta read this

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In my opinion, xouper is trying to square the circle here: he wants to beleive that a company can be friendly toward a group, and yet be neutral about legislation critical to that group's civil liberties.
That may be true, I'm not sure. But my point was that either way it doesn't constitute evidence, as you have suggested it does, that xouper is operating under an "I got mine fuck everyone else" Libertarian economic philosophy.
There is an assumption I made here, that he took that position because he prioritized the company's "right" to make money in this scenario.

I happen to believe the assumption is correct, but if not - then you are right; I may have jumped the gun.
Right. And like I said, I have no idea if the assumption was accurate or not either. All I know for sure is:

1. Xouper claims to be a Libertarian who does not operate under an "I got mine, fuck everybody else" economic philosophy, and

2. Xouper doesn't think MS withdrawing their support for a gay rights bill--despite their claim to be a "gay-friendly" company--is a big deal.

All I'm saying is that whatever you think about 2, I don't think it disproves 1. I can understand why you might think they're related, but I just don't think it's a reasonable assumption. Not without a lot more information.

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No one attacked you personally. You stated an absurd position. All I did was state my belief that the very act of making the absurd statement was evidence of your political philosophy.

If I said that you were a fucking moron - like you said about me - now THAT would be a personal attack.
I just have to comment on this since it's a pet peeve of mine, sorry. I think one of the worst things IIDB has done for discourse on this planet is endorsing this meme: That nothing short of namecalling or character smears directed at a person by name constitutes a "personal attack". I don't think it's at all unreasonable for xouper to perceive your accusation that he operates under an "I got mine, fuck everybody else" economic philosophy as a personal attack. Even if you only meant it as what you consider a statement of fact, it's obviously an unflattering assessment.
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