[Adora]

Originally Posted by fatherphil

i assumed the goal of the homosexual community in the issue of marriage was to get one's respective government to recognize their legal right to same sex marriage. a church santion is not much use if its still is not recognized as a legal and state sanctioned contract.

So can you understand the hub bub now, bub, since that was exactly what I pointed out in my post?

i wonder sometimes if a society uses religion to justify persecution of a practice they hate regardless of religious mores. the Christians do not have the corner on the "don't let gays marry" market.

No, they don't, but in countries where they also don't have those freedoms, they're likely to be thrown in jail if they even reveal they are homosexual. They have the freedom to campaign for marriage here, and in the US, which are predominantly Christian countries, who are using forms of Christianity (rational and sound or otherwise) to prevent them.

dignity usa does not follow that example in the sense that they attempt to rewrite scripture rather than follow it through.

And where was it in the four gospels you so encourage us to read that Jesus said, "Damn, I hate them fags. They shouldn't be allowed to marry."?

to not concede something as a sin is a much harder sell than just trying to get allowances for that sin.

So, when was the last time you ate some prawns, fatherphil? Because if anal sex is a sin, so is that. How many allowances do Christians make for non-Kosher food, which is on the same level of "sin" as having sex with your wife when she's menstrating, and being a male and having anal sex with a male?

If a sin is pointless in society, it is ignored and accepted as normal, especially if it's based on flawed logic (or misogyny). Biblical morality is as mutable as any non-absolute morality, phil, as the examples I have stated above show.

If anybody is trying to re-write scripture, it is the ignorant masses with no knowledge of the Hewbrew context for the Bible they abuse.

to not concede something as a sin is a much harder sell than just trying to get allowances for that sin.

If the straights don't appreciate the rights they have, they should give them to people who will appreciate them . They've had their chance. Let the gays have a go.