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conversely, college universities punish unacceptable speech with a closeminded dogmatic approach, because it is unacceptable thought. things that are deemed offensive. sometimes when the term politically correct is used it is incredibly accurate,
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I disagree. Entire countries in Europe have hate speech laws. They're not on the books because governments want everyone to toe the party line. Hell, most of those countries have many, many parties, all with distinctly different lines. They believe that some speech crosses the line into action, that it is damaging as such. If a private institution in the United States shares that belief, I don't see what "PC" has to do with it.
I don't agree with the anti hate speech regs I've seen (although admittedly I've seen them bitched about far more than I've actually seen the regs themselves), but the claim that they're motivated by the ever-nebulous "political correctness" strikes me as easily said and never, ever backed up. |
but the idea that some speech is completely unacceptable and should be banned is a bullshit position in my opinion. I am for more freedom not less. hate speech is a leftist position. on the other hand banning immoral speech is a position of the right and I am opposed to both.
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take the recent ncaa banning of all native american mascots from national championship play. the florida state seminoles are one such team, even though they have official sanction to use the name from the seminole tribal council.
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That's an excellent example, actually. Who precisely do you think the NCAA was pandering to when it banned those symbols? Obviously they weren't pandering to the local Seminole council, so what's the "politically correct" element here?
What if they were simply convinced by an argument? I've seen some excellent ones against tribal mascots for sports teams. My favorite for sheer euphonia was when a guy I saw on Oprah once asked if anyone would put up with a football team called the Washington Zulus, nevermind the Washington Darkies. |
actually my point was that the ncaa is obviusly not pandering to native americans, as quite a few polls have shown that they dont have a problem with some of the school names. in america we are hypersensitive to african american issues, also I doubt that the washington darkies would get approval by the black community.