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Old 04-11-2009, 08:55 PM
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Default Deadly internet bullying, OR ways in which the FF is like police brutality

So mick apparently thinks that the ":ff: mob" engages in "bullying" like that of the police officer in London.

I was wondering if he could explain how this is so. For example, if he could provide any examples where the ":ff: mob" engaged in bullying that could be reasonably expected to result in serious harm.

Or he could show us the parallels between ":ff: mob" behavior and known examples of internet bullying that led to serious harm.

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So mick apparently thinks that the ":ff: mob" engages in "bullying" like that of the police officer in London.

I was wondering if he could explain how this is so. For example, if he could provide any examples where the ":FF: mob" engaged in bullying that could be reasonably expected to result in serious harm.

Or he could show us the parallels between ":ff: mob" behavior and known examples of internet bullying that led to serious harm.
I can. Serious though, because thiis is sirius busines. You harmed my pussy erimir. My pussy hurts. WTF to do, pls?
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Old 04-11-2009, 09:16 PM
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I thought :ff:'s bullying was like slavery.
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I thought it was like child rape.
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Old 04-12-2009, 06:40 AM
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Actually, although no-one takes Mick especially seriously, he does make some good points about the way :ff: works. Even though only one person has been banned from :ff:, the infamous latinjral IIRC, think about how the members deal with trolls. This place is almost unique in that respect.

Internet bullying is a phenomenon that should be taken seriously. It can hurt emotionally, and, occasionally, physically. People have been driven to suicidal behaviour before now. Admittedly, this phenomenon is not all that common, but it can, and does, happen.
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Old 04-12-2009, 02:09 PM
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Actually, although no-one takes Mick especially seriously, he does make some good points about the way :ff: works. Even though only one person has been banned from :ff:, the infamous latinjral IIRC, think about how the members deal with trolls. This place is almost unique in that respect.

Internet bullying is a phenomenon that should be taken seriously. It can hurt emotionally, and, occasionally, physically. People have been driven to suicidal behaviour before now. Admittedly, this phenomenon is not all that common, but it can, and does, happen.
I agree that internet bullying is a problem, but I just don't see it rising to the level of emotional and physical harm here. Do you have examples of people being bullied here that couldn't be solved by them deleting FF from their favorites and finding a new place to hang out? Or using the ignore button?
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Old 04-12-2009, 05:55 PM
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Actually, although no-one takes Mick especially seriously, he does make some good points about the way :ff: works. Even though only one person has been banned from :ff:, the infamous latinjral IIRC, think about how the members deal with trolls. This place is almost unique in that respect.

Internet bullying is a phenomenon that should be taken seriously. It can hurt emotionally, and, occasionally, physically. People have been driven to suicidal behaviour before now. Admittedly, this phenomenon is not all that common, but it can, and does, happen.
I agree that internet bullying is a problem, but I just don't see it rising to the level of emotional and physical harm here. Do you have examples of people being bullied here that couldn't be solved by them deleting FF from their favorites and finding a new place to hang out? Or using the ignore button?
I personally haven't seen anything on FF that I would say was real bullying or harassment. There have been attempts at it, by Sovereign towards Shelli & CC, for instance, but those have been quickly squashed. In part, what makes this community effective is the fact that most people like each other and are reasonably tolerant of each others' "foibles".

On the use of ignore: It is a bad use of ignore to stop bullying. This simply enables the offenders. There is only one effective way to deal with bullies - kick them hard. If that means banning them, then so be it. As I say, it hasn't been necessary here because the community is pretty close-knit.
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Old 04-12-2009, 03:07 PM
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Actually, although no-one takes Mick especially seriously, he does make some good points about the way :ff: works. Even though only one person has been banned from :ff:, the infamous latinjral IIRC, think about how the members deal with trolls. This place is almost unique in that respect.

Internet bullying is a phenomenon that should be taken seriously. It can hurt emotionally, and, occasionally, physically. People have been driven to suicidal behaviour before now. Admittedly, this phenomenon is not all that common, but it can, and does, happen.
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Old 04-12-2009, 06:01 PM
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Although no-one takes Mick especially seriously.
^^^^^QFTFT^^^^^

That's why I have it on ignore.
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Old 04-12-2009, 07:13 AM
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yeah, we tell dipshits to shut the fuck up, that isnt bullying thats self defense.

though if you need a razor blade,

might i suggest occams razor, its not just for superfluous gods, it does a damn fine job on wrists.
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Old 04-12-2009, 05:21 PM
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I did too at one point, MT, but I've since taken Mick off ignore. In fact, I've taken everyone off ignore, even the real jerks like Sovereign.
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Old 04-12-2009, 06:14 PM
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C'mon JD, I can think of at least two interpretations of that
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Old 04-12-2009, 06:19 PM
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FF has a large population of people who have been through much worse places, could hold their own pretty much anywhere, and mostly just want to hang around and chat pleasantly.

What this means is that a garden-variety bully here ends up in the position of someone who decided to start stuff in a "retirement community" full of former commandoes who decided to retire to the same place so they could have people to spar with just to keep in shape.

There's a secondary level to the analogy; it's not just that this place has a surprising density of extremely skilled flame warriors. It's that they're skilled enough not to use force they don't mean to, and not to feel any need to harm anyone seriously, because they know themselves not to be in any danger.

Net result, would-be bullies get their asses handed to them, after which everyone goes back to drinking tea with pinkies out.
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Net result, would-be bullies get their asses handed to them, after which everyone goes back to drinking tea with pinkies out.

So :ff: is different from other forums because here the in-crowd genuinely are all heroes. LOL seebs, do you ever listen to yourself?

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So :ff: is different from other forums because here the in-crowd genuinely are all heroes.
Another cool example of you massively misreading something.

Nowhere did I say "heroes".

Nowhere did I say anything about the "in-crowd".

Those are your interpretations, not anything I said. I didn't say anyone was a hero, and I don't really think there's necessarily a well-defined, or even loosely-defined, "in crowd".

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Net result, would-be bullies get their asses handed to them, after which everyone goes back to drinking tea with pinkies out.

So :ff: is different from other forums because here the in-crowd genuinely are all heroes. LOL seebs, do you ever listen to yourself?

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