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01-30-2014, 04:22 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
in 2011 (the most recent year I found data for in the 60 seconds I was willing to spend looking, and the trend is presumably growing), 87,201 self-published e-books were released, most of those using established platforms (i.e. Amazon) with existing customer bases. Whatever the merits of your father's magnum opus, you're facing a lot of competition there. How, exactly, do you suspect potential readers are going to stumble across your book and decide it's worth their scarce attention?
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01-30-2014, 04:24 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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I told you before "If you build it they will come" won't work. You have to do a ton of work to get people to give enough of a shit to go to your website and to read/listen. It won't happen by magic.
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No LadyShea,there are people who will be willing, without my begging them, to listen CAREFULLY to his proof. Maybe it's my fault for coming here, but there is an inquisitiveness that has been completely eviscerated due to this thread. For anyone not be curious to hear this audio, IS BEYOND ME. No one here is even willing to do that because they have already committed themselves (in a very smug way) to presuppose that my father had nothing to offer. If he turns out to be right, they will regret their decision to ignore everything I have presented. This self-righteousness is the only possible reason I can see as to why they would not even want the password that I'm giving away for FREE!
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How do you think these people will find your website? The "ton of work" I mentioned is in publicizing. Have you even updated your Facebook page?
I don't need to listen to the audio because I have a pdf copy of the book. I prefer to read, remember?
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01-30-2014, 04:24 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Well, even if I hadn't already read the book (you put most of it online, remember? Except for the part about not-reincarnation?) there is little point, as i have just proven beyond a shadow of a doubt (to lessanese standards, anyway) that it will never take off. If it never takes off, there's no point reading about a revolution that will never happen now is there?
Or does the audiobook include that part?
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Yes it does Vivisectus. And you cannot tell me that reading this major work could be understood in a perusal or a quick skim. It doesn't work that way. It takes time to evaluate and consider his findings. You can't see the truth of these observations because you were on the offensive. You were ready and waiting to attack the first thing he wrote that you didn't like. I hope you reconsider and give this work a chance. It is not just the discovery on death that is most important, although it was father's favorite. It is the knowledge of how to prevent from coming back that for which BLAME AND PUNISHMENT were previously necessary AS PART OF OUR DEVELOPPMENT. I don't know how to express this any other way without virtually shaking you. I can't do anymore than I have done. I am going to try to set up a forum where people can be part of this movement. Maybe you will join me. Who knows. I just want to thank everyone for their time and commitment to this very important thread and endeavor, even if you are dubious as to the genuineness of this knowledge. I forgive you. 
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You seem to have made another spelling error. What's up with that? Don't worry, I think I can decipher it.
Good luck with your forum for people who want to join the movement. Let me know if it starts to generate some traffic: then maybe I can join in and all you guys can have fun explaining to each other how biased I am. It would be utterly fascinating to talk to people who think this book makes sense.
Maybe you can just make people re-read the book until they agree, as you seem hell-bent on trying to do with me. It could very well work: being forced to read that eye-watering prose for more than a few times would make me endorse Mein Kampf, if that is what it took. It is an approach that seems to work well for Scientologists, anyway. They equate disagreement with lack of understanding too.
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01-30-2014, 04:29 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
I'm struggling to find a set of search terms that even locate the book via Google, without cheating by hopping through this thread. Even adding "Lessans" doesn't seem to help.
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01-30-2014, 04:36 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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I'm struggling to find a set of search terms that even locate the book via Google, without cheating by hopping through this thread. Even adding "Lessans" doesn't seem to help.
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The website is not at all SEO'd. peacegirl, what search terms might the kind of people you are looking for use while seeking enlightenment or information online? You need to identify them and ensure they are on your site, you see.
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01-30-2014, 05:01 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Well, even if I hadn't already read the book (you put most of it online, remember? Except for the part about not-reincarnation?) there is little point, as i have just proven beyond a shadow of a doubt (to lessanese standards, anyway) that it will never take off. If it never takes off, there's no point reading about a revolution that will never happen now is there?
Or does the audiobook include that part?
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Yes it does Vivisectus. And you cannot tell me that reading this major work could be understood in a perusal or a quick skim. It doesn't work that way. It takes time to evaluate and consider his findings. You can't see the truth of these observations because you were on the offensive. You were ready and waiting to attack the first thing he wrote that you didn't like. I hope you reconsider and give this work a chance. It is not just the discovery on death that is most important, although it was father's favorite. It is the knowledge of how to prevent from coming back that for which BLAME AND PUNISHMENT were previously necessary AS PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT. I don't know how to express this any other way without virtually shaking you. I can't do anymore than I have done. I am going to try to set up a forum where people can be part of this movement. Maybe you will join me. Who knows. I just want to thank everyone for their time and commitment to this very important thread and endeavor, even if you are dubious as to the genuineness of this knowledge. I forgive you. 
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You seem to have made another spelling error. What's up with that? Don't worry, I think I can decipher it.
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What spelling error did you find that is so important to have brought up?
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Good luck with your forum for people who want to join the movement. Let me know if it starts to generate some traffic: then maybe I can join in and all you guys can have fun explaining to each other how biased I am. It would be utterly fascinating to talk to people who think this book makes sense.
Maybe you can just make people re-read the book until they agree, as you seem hell-bent on trying to do with me. It could very well work: being forced to read that eye-watering prose for more than a few times would make me endorse Mein Kampf, if that is what it took. It is an approach that seems to work well for Scientologists, anyway. They equate disagreement with lack of understanding too.
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I'm not even asking you to read anything. I'm asking you to listen to the audio. It will help you to see that you have understood very little in spite of how long I've been here. Don't give me this stuff about Mein Kampf, as if to say that you already know everything there is to know. How can you endorse something you know very little about? In regard to this discovery, it is absolutely true that disagreeing is equivalent to lack of understanding. If you disagree with one plus one equals two, it's because you don't understand it. The same holds true here.
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01-30-2014, 05:05 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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I'm struggling to find a set of search terms that even locate the book via Google, without cheating by hopping through this thread. Even adding "Lessans" doesn't seem to help.
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The website is not at all SEO'd. peacegirl, what search terms might the kind of people you are looking for use while seeking enlightenment or information online? You need to identify them and ensure they are on your site, you see.
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It's not SEO'd because I was not at that point. I'm just sharing this discovery with a special group of people: NAMELY FREETHOUGHT-FORUM. Other people would not be able to access the audio because I haven't advertised it. But I have no doubt that it will eventually spread. You will then be able to claim that you were the first to hear about it, but at the present time you take this knowledge so lightly that you don't believe this knowledge is valid, therefore you don't believe for a second that any of the things I am predicting could be true. Unfortunately, I am not capable of convincing you otherwise. You are determined to keep your stalwart position as if you are holding down the fort of some body of knowledge that is coming against you. But there is no fort necessary to protect you; this is all an imaginary threat.
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01-30-2014, 05:16 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
Okey dokey. You should have had your target audience in mind when you wrote the copy though, as that is what search engines scan.
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01-30-2014, 05:19 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Okey dokey. You should have had your target audience in mind when you wrote the copy though, as that is what search engines scan.
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I'm just starting out with the website. I can set up SEO anytime I want, which can be retroactive. Please stop giving me advice and address the issue at hand LadyShea; the fact that you are so afraid of being scammed that you won't even ask me for the password. This let's me know more than anything else that there is nothing I can offer that will satisfy you because I gave you the actual audio right from the horse's mouth. From here on in I realize that this discussion will be a total waste of time. Thank you for letting me know this as I don't have this kind of time to waste.
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01-30-2014, 05:27 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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the fact that you are so afraid of being scammed that you won't even ask me for the password.
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Scammed how? I have discussed it with you for 3 years and read the book...I have no need to get the password from you, and no interest. There can't be something new in the decades old audio.
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01-30-2014, 05:42 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
Yah, why would you think that the people participating in this thread would want the password? We've mostly already read the book.
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01-30-2014, 06:01 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
I am kind of seriously perplexed about today's load of butthurt. What was the plan here
1. Offer information to people who already have it
2. Profit!
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01-30-2014, 07:14 PM
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I'll be benched for a week if I keep these shenanigans up.
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Yah, why would you think that the people participating in this thread would want the password? We've mostly already read the book.
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I was hoping for Chapter 10. Unfortunately that was the one chapter still without audio.
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01-30-2014, 07:44 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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Yah, why would you think that the people participating in this thread would want the password? We've mostly already read the book.
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You THINK you have mostly read the book. Of the people who read the .pdf, it was mostly taken out of context. Adam, of all people, did you read anything at all? You came here late. If you did read it, what is the discovery? Give me something to chew on. I don't think you can.
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01-30-2014, 07:49 PM
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the fact that you are so afraid of being scammed that you won't even ask me for the password.
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Scammed how? I have discussed it with you for 3 years and read the book...I have no need to get the password from you, and no interest. There can't be something new in the decades old audio.
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Oh my gosh, you are so incredibly close-minded. Did you even listen to the first chapter which was offered a long time ago?
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01-30-2014, 07:54 PM
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Okey dokey. You should have had your target audience in mind when you wrote the copy though, as that is what search engines scan.
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I wasn't ready to reach my target audience. It's not like SEO goes away. I haven't even established the tags or links to let the search engines know how to optimize my chances of being found.
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01-30-2014, 08:20 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
LOL, at the very least your content text should contain some terms your target audience is inclined to search for....have you identified your target audience? Maybe the people you want most are apt to search for "world peace" or as you've said many times "determinism". The word "determinism" isn't on any page of your site.
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01-30-2014, 08:27 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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the fact that you are so afraid of being scammed that you won't even ask me for the password.
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Scammed how? I have discussed it with you for 3 years and read the book...I have no need to get the password from you, and no interest. There can't be something new in the decades old audio.
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Oh my gosh, you are so incredibly close-minded. Did you even listen to the first chapter which was offered a long time ago?
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Why would listen to it I when I can and have read it?
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01-30-2014, 08:30 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
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the fact that you are so afraid of being scammed that you won't even ask me for the password.
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Scammed how? I have discussed it with you for 3 years and read the book...I have no need to get the password from you, and no interest. There can't be something new in the decades old audio.
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Oh my gosh, you are so incredibly close-minded. Did you even listen to the first chapter which was offered a long time ago?
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Why would listen to it I when I can and have read it?
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You know what LadyShea? You are just too difficult to deal with when there are plenty of people who would gladly listen to it. I will use my time more wisely in the future.
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01-30-2014, 08:34 PM
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LOL, at the very least your content text should contain some terms your target audience is inclined to search for....have you identified your target audience? Maybe the people you want most are apt to search for "world peace" or as you've said many times "determinism". The word "determinism" isn't on any page of your site.
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Absolutely! I will produce tags very soon. I had to get my audio working and other more important things so when they do come to my website, they will have something to dig their teeth into. I don't do things prematurely. You do know what the book is about so you are welcome to give me words that you think may help me in my google ranking. Some words I have are: determinism, free will, world peace, Middle East, Gandhi, eye for eye, turn the other cheek, retaliation, justification, conscience, blame, punishment. I will think of more soon.
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01-30-2014, 08:37 PM
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Too difficult to deal with? Is that like being too angry to communicate with? All I've done is read your book instead of listening to audio. I don't like audio any more than I like video...I prefer reading.
I have been telling you to use your time more wisely since day 1, peacegirl. If there are "plenty of people who would gladly listen" then go find them! What are you hanging around here for?
BTW, have your kids listened to it yet?
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01-30-2014, 08:39 PM
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Re: A revolution in thought
Google's algorithms favor relevant content over tags.
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01-30-2014, 09:56 PM
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I'll be benched for a week if I keep these shenanigans up.
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I will use my time more wisely in the future.
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I bet you don't.
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01-30-2014, 10:22 PM
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Google's algorithms favor relevant content over tags.
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I don't think I'm going to blog just to get up in the ranks. This isn't the type of material I can blog about. If I have a forum that might help with content.
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01-30-2014, 10:32 PM
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Too difficult to deal with? Is that like being too angry to communicate with? All I've done is read your book instead of listening to audio. I don't like audio any more than I like video...I prefer reading.
I have been telling you to use your time more wisely since day 1, peacegirl. If there are "plenty of people who would gladly listen" then go find them! What are you hanging around here for?
BTW, have your kids listened to it yet?
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LadyShea, I had to get a better plug-in because the one I had didn't allow anyone to pause or move back and forth. Now that I finally found someone to help me, I can begin to promote the book. I may just put the link on facebook sites that are related to philosophy or peace. I just don't want to be considered spam.
My kids know what the book is about and they want to study it more thoroughly. They are all so busy. My son is getting ready for a murder trial. I told you he is the defense lawyer. They postponed it for two months, so now it's coming up. My other kids are just as busy. I don't want to put pressure on them. When they're ready they will read the latest version.
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