Are they ashamed?

[ApostateAbe]

Originally Posted by livius drusus

I didn't much like the comment, but not because I consider it embarassing or invasive for Mary Cheney. She's just too far out of the closet for that to be a factor.

Abe, did you have the same reaction to Edwards' comments about the Cheneys loving their daughter?

No, because that comment wasn't meant as a debating weapon. There is a big difference.

[livius drusus]

How do you know?

[ApostateAbe]

Originally Posted by livius drusus

How do you know?

Because it seems to be obvious from the context. Edwards said it to point out the positives in Dick Cheney instead of the negatives.

And Edwards and Cheney are very close to agreeing on the point of gay marriage. Edwards opposes the ban, and Cheney would prefer that there not be a ban, but he supports it just because the president sets the policy.

[beyelzu]

Originally Posted by ApostateAbe

Because it seems to be obvious from the context. Edwards said it to point out the positives in Dick Cheney instead of the negatives.

And Edwards and Cheney are very close to agreeing on the point of gay marriage. Edwards opposes the ban, and Cheney would prefer that there not be a ban, but he supports it just because the president sets the policy.

Yet, Cheney still supports legislation that would officially make it impossible for a particularly minority to be granted civil liberties that the majority of us take for granted. Since the minority includes his own daughter, I think that there is definitely a legitimate point here. Cheney doesnt mind taking away civil liberties from his own family in the name of political expediency.

I think that it is really fucking sad that most of the amendments actually give rights and here the administration is trying to use the process to take away the rights of of a particular group.

[ApostateAbe]

Originally Posted by beyelzu

Yet, Cheney still supports legislation that would officially make it impossible for a particularly minority to be granted civil liberties that the majority of us take for granted. Since the minority includes his own daughter, I think that there is definitely a legitimate point here. Cheney doesnt mind taking away civil liberties from his own family in the name of political expediency.

I think that it is really fucking sad that most of the amendments actually give rights and here the administration is trying to use the process to take away the rights of of a particular group.

Can't say I disagree on this one.