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I just feel like leaving this link here, I have no idea why.

An Expression of concern.

Perhaps I will wait until something beyond the not-peer-reviewed abstract is actually published before I make any scientific judgements.
lol happened to follow this up out of curiosity and the abstract has been revised

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1...00000000001053

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The sentences “Each vac pt’s PULS score and inflammatory marker changes were compared to their pre-vac PULS score, thus serving as their own control. There was no comparison made with unvaccinated patients or pts treated with other vaccines.” have been added to the description of the methods.
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The sentence “At the time of this report, these changes persist for at least 2.5 months post second dose of vac.” has been removed from the description of the results.

The sentence “No statistical comparison was done in this observational study.” has been added to the description of the results.
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Weird-looking (Botox injections) unvaccinated French twins both die from COVID six days apart.

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Weird-looking ... French, but I repeat myself, twins ...
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Weird-looking (Botox injections) unvaccinated French twins both die from COVID six days apart.

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def can't just go around injecting stuff into one's body
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Are there going to be lawsuits about this kind of crap?
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I keep seeing indications--like articles and posts and stuff--that the healthcare crisis we're seeing right now is going to be permanent if we don't do something drastic and do it soon.

In a sane and purely hypothetical world, a global crisis like this would help us set our priorities straight. Decide what's really essential and what isn't, and figure out a system to work with that.
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Are there going to be lawsuits about this kind of crap?
It's America. Of course suits will be filed.

Also it's America. Nothing will change.
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In a sane and purely hypothetical world, a global crisis like this would help us set our priorities straight. Decide what's really essential and what isn't, and figure out a system to work with that.
Is that world accepting immigration applications?
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I’m now cross vaxed, with Moderna to mix with my previous Pfizer! Also got my flu shot, which has kicked my ass a bit and I’ve spent the day sleeping and staring off into the middle distance.

But with everyone having access to both the Vax and boosters this should be over pretty soon…

California Prison’s on 15 day lockdown.
SFistNow the Omicron surge, coupled with a bafflingly low vaccination rate among guards — despite the well publicized death of an infected guard there in August 2020 — has spread the problem statewide. The Marin Independent Journal reports that San Quentin and all California state prisons are on a 15-day lockdown, and the Chronicle adds that statewide, the prison system has seen “a 311% increase from the week before“ in new COVID cases.

And what do you know, the surge is being driven by unvaccinated guards. According to the Marin Independent Journal, “The prison reported six active cases among inmates and 83 among staff in the last two weeks, as of Wednesday,” and, “At the prison, 91% of inmates and 66% of correctional staff are vaccinated.
Another COVID Outbreak Hits San Quentin, Likely Driven By Unvaccinated Guards
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More than anything I am surprised the preppers aren't more into the whole avoiding covid thing. As in whoever stays uninfected the longest wins. Scientist really dropped the ball in the naming two years ago, imagine how people would comply if it was "the Z-virus" or even the "50% get organ damage for life-virus". "Stay uninfected for 3 years and win a prize-virus"
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Yabbut, 2 years ago scientists didn't know how many stupid people there were, and politicians were all "how much can we blame this on China" and "how do we avoid panic and keep our economies in full exploitation mode"
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Yabbut you'd think the survivalist preppers would be all about it on their own. But I guess the only constant is inconsistency.
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I was originally surprised by that too, but then I realized most preppers were prepping for war, not a pandemic. That's how it always is in TV and movies, after all. Hell, the CDC did that guide about how to survive a zombie invasion just to get people thinking about disaster preparedness.

They didn't think very hard, though, because they just ended up stockpiling weapons.
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Have they tried shooting it yet?
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These weirdos run out and shoot at tornadoes and hurricanes.
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I was originally surprised by that too, but then I realized most preppers were prepping for war, not a pandemic. That's how it always is in TV and movies, after all.
Indeed, most preppers are prepping for the zombie apocalypse as seen in the movies, and thus are prepping to defend their castle against hordes and to do super market raids, until big daddy government/military restores order.

Now we of course know the idea of the partially picked over super market is hilarious. By the time the zombies got there, even the shelving would be stripped from the place.

I have a friend who’s a bit of an actual prepper, he’s spent a lot of time researching growing food, bio diesel generators, water collection and storage, grey water disposal, septic systems, Heating/air conditioning, etc.
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I've always been a little into that prepping stuff. Not that I've implemented much of it, but it's a rabbit hole I go down a lot. Funny thing is, I got this really strong urge to up my game with stocking food and essentials not too long before the pandy came knocking, so I was ahead of the game with canning and fermenting and sourdough and stuff. I'd dabbled in that stuff before, but I just got this sudden urge to stick with it long enough to get competent. So by the time it did come around, we were fairly well prepared, and even able to send out care packages and give out sourdough starter to strangers who were just getting started.

But I'm mostly planning for things like bad weather, supply chain issues, and shit like getting stranded away from home for short periods, all of which I've experienced before. And on a smaller scale, I try to learn the skills I need so I don't have to go out and buy new stuff whenever something goes wrong at a lower level than pure chaos, where you can't easily replace stuff like clothes when they get holes in them. (I've gotten better at darning and other mending lately, for everybody's information.)

Ultimately, I'd love to have a better passive and renewable energy system and a small vegetable garden for basic subsistence so we could hole up for years, but I don't yet. I do have moderately usable systems for getting through short term problems, though.

But I have no interest in surviving to live in some post-apocalyptic mess, or in killing people to survive. So I just make sure my family and friends know where I've put up supplies so they can come get them if they ever need to.
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Some years back I bought a book called The Knowledge: How to Rebuild Our World from Scratch, by astrobiologist Lewis Dartnell. I haven't read it but supposedly it does an adequate job of explaining how to rebuild civilization in the event of an apocalypse. Now I'm actually thinking it might be a good read, so maybe I'll do it.

Our power went out for a few hours recently and I started thinking about doing a little prep since just about the only food around the house needed cooking.
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