A revolution in thought

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You have added nothing to the conversation.

Neither have you.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I thought you accidentally hit the wrong key and ended up in this thread. So what's your excuse now?

What's yours?

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

It definitely has...

Nope. Not once.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

No one stays in a place that gives them nothing back.

So why are you still here? What are you getting from this, other than the negative attention you crave?

[The Lone Ranger]

Janis, you are a liar.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

People who may not know the slight nuances in the meaning of these terms is the reason why he felt it necessary to clarify them. He wanted to make sure people knew that, in the context of this book, these terms were synonymous. He did this in good faith. You are making an issue over nothing, which you are using to throw out his entire book. It's very unscientific if you ask me. Regardless of your reaction, this does not change the fact that these principles are undeniable, mathematical, and scientific. The irony is that science is going to take the lead in not only stamping this knowledge with the brevet of truth, but helping to make this new world a reality.

Then the context of the book was erroneous, these terms are not synonymous.

It is very scientific to test the claims of the book against what is known and verified by the evidence, and when the claims fail, the book is rejected.

[Cynthia of Syracuse]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

It doesn't matter what vaccine she's talking about because I never said all vaccines are bad. Why don't you get this LadyShea, and why are you always trying to show me up on things that are trivial?

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

There's those keen Lessans analytical skills at work again.

Cynthia of Syracuse was talking about giardia, dumbass.

And, as LadyShea pointed out, the HPV vaccine is called Gardasil, not "Gardia." It's astonishing. You're wrong about everything. Even a busted clock is right twice a day, but not you.

I'd add my voice to the chorus of "read for comprehension, Janis", but it would be like asking a hamster to paint the Mona Lisa. No knowledge, no skills, and even operating at maximum capacity only capable of squeaking and depositing little balls of shit all over the canvas.

Based on her responses I always figured it required a keyword to trigger one of Janis' automated subroutines, but apparently single letters are sufficient. She couldn't have proven my point better if we'd planned it out for weeks.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by The Lone Ranger

Janis, you are a liar.

Based on a kind of blindness, she can only see her father and his book.

The Flamingos - I Only Have Eyes For You - YouTube

[LadyShea]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

The argument that one should give their child an injection for the sake of the greater good is incredibly flawed morally and ethically.

That depends on one's personal moral and ethical values. You are not God so you don't get to say what is or is not morally or ethically flawed for anyone except yourself.

[LadyShea]

I think not. You are not God so you are not in the position to tell me what I deserve and what I don't.

LOL. Respect is granted, and the grantor decides who is or is not deserving of his or her respect.

God gives respect to everyone, even the prostitute and the leper, remember?

Jesus didn't respect money changers, nor the Pharisees, nor stingy fig trees

[Stephen Maturin]

Now that peacegirl is a Pretend Ignore or two from talking to herself, it's time for a bit of good (though old) news about the Lessans family.

Every now then you hear about a couple so attached to one another that the death of one proves too much for the other. Happened last year with my boss's parents. His dad died after a lengthy illness and his mother, who'd been in remarkably good health, passed ten days later.

Such was not the case with Seymour and Madeline Lessans. Seymour traveled the sacred river of jizz back to the Germinal World of Potential Consciousness in 1991. His spouse lived another seventeen years.

Jackass Janis tells us that her mother fully supported ol' Seymour in all his endeavors. Unlike everything else that drops from Janis' dissembling maw, I have no trouble believing that at all. Imagine what it must have been like to be the spouse of an egomaniacal douche who believed he'd found the answer to all humankind's problems and lived in a perpetual state of butthurt because the mean ol' academics wouldn't listen to him.

Of course Seymour's spouse supported him in all his whackadoo efforts. Every moment Seymour spent at the billiards hall or holed up writing one of his idiot books was a moment he wasn't bitching about improperly cooked spaghetti and meatballs, grumbling about academia or trying to rub his pathetic little pecker against Madeline. Hell, in her place, I would have supported him too.

Here's a cool thing: Madeline Lessans was interviewed for a New York Times piece in 1988. Seems she'd been bamboozled into voting for Reagan -- twice -- but hey, that happened to lots of people. Also, lol Gephart. Even so, getting interviewed for the New York Times is a cool thing indeed!

It does one's heart good to know that Madeline Lessans left this world after seventeen years of Seymour-less bliss. I'm guessing those were the best seventeen years of her life.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by LadyShea

LOL. Respect is granted, and the grantor decides who is or is not deserving of his or her respect.

Jesus didn't respect money changers, nor the Pharisees, nor stingy fig trees

I hear-tell Yahweh was slightly less than respectful to the inhabitants of Jericho as well.

[LadyShea]

I hear-tell Yahweh was slightly less than respectful to the inhabitants of Jericho as well.

Yes, and there was that business about most living things on Earth being very disrespectfully drowned .

[Angakuk]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

It's very unscientific if you ask me.

No one has asked you and no one is likely to, given your ignorance of all things scientific.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Don't test your luck Angakuk. I'm not in the mood for your quips. If you rub me the wrong way enough times, you're going to ignore island.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

People are glued to this thread; I didn't say this is the only thread people go to.

If they can, and do, go to other threads then it follows that, unlike you, they are not glued to this one.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Yup, but who's counting? Jesus didn't count how many times it took for someone to get it right...

And your authority for this claim is?

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Any other discussion is irrelevant if you can't give me the respect I deserve.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I think not. You are not God so you are not in the position to tell me what I deserve and what I don't. God gives respect to everyone, even the prostitute and the leper, remember?

I agree. I am not some totally impersonal law of the universe and never claimed to be one. BTW, how does a totally impersonal law of the universe go about giving respect? What would that look like?

Originally Posted by peacegirl

That's why I didn't pay much attention. Why would she bring an anti-parasitic into the conversation when we were talking about vaccines?

Maybe if you had actually paid attention to what she wrote you could answer that question for yourself. [Hint: She also made no reference to an anti-parasitic.]

[LadyShea]

Yes wrong thread

[Angakuk]

Wrong thread?

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by thedoc

Then the context of the book was erroneous, these terms are not synonymous.

It is very scientific to test the claims of the book against what is known and verified by the evidence, and when the claims fail, the book is rejected.

That is absolutely false. Empiricists talk about testing, but their tests are not foolproof in this case. People have already taken the position that Lessans is a crackpot, therefore anything Lessans says is immediately scoffed at and made fun of. This is not science based thinking; it's maintaining the status quo.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by LadyShea

As you've said multiple times over the years, which has turned out to not be the case.

The only way this thread will be done is if YOU stop posting in it. You are the draw.

Whether I'm the draw or not, people don't go to threads and spend hours of their day reading what they consider utter nonsense. I know that people here love to find someone to laugh at, but this is no laughing matter and I think deep down people realize that. If not, they can laugh all they want but I will not be talked down to anymore.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Cynthia of Syracuse

I'd add my voice to the chorus of "read for comprehension, Janis", but it would be like asking a hamster to paint the Mona Lisa. No knowledge, no skills, and even operating at maximum capacity only capable of squeaking and depositing little balls of shit all over the canvas.

Based on her responses I always figured it required a keyword to trigger one of Janis' automated subroutines, but apparently single letters are sufficient. She couldn't have proven my point better if we'd planned it out for weeks.

You have never participated in the conversation, not once, except to criticize. You don't impress me Cynthia. Get with the program and maybe I'll give you the time of day, but right now, you're just another anti-Lessans sympathizer who falsely imagines me to be a woo-monger.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by thedoc

Based on a kind of blindness, she can only see her father and his book.

Thanks for the comic relief. It gave me a chuckle.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by LadyShea

That depends on one's personal moral and ethical values. You are not God so you don't get to say what is or is not morally or ethically flawed for anyone except yourself.

That is true. I am not God. But if you follow the reasoning in this book you will realize why everyone deserves respect. We're all intrinsically equal in value, even though we might not respect or appreciate the reasons for someone's bad behavior. Can't you separate behavior from the person? According to the Bible, God loves every person unconditionally; that doesn't mean he is proud of everything they do. That last sentence was for Angakuk.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

That is absolutely false.

Oh really? So testing claims against evidence is no longer scientific? Please do tell us more about how science works then.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Empiricists talk about testing, but their tests are not foolproof in this case.

Empirical testing is never foolproof. One can only ever go with the preponderance of evidence. And the evidence against Lessans is as strong as evidence ever gets.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Whether I'm the draw or not...

You are.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

...people don't go to threads and spend hours of their day reading what they consider utter nonsense.

They do when it's highly entertaining nonsense.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I know that people here love to find someone to laugh at, but this is no laughing matter and I think deep down people realize that.

Very true. As entertaining as you are, I think we all appreciate that your condition is quite tragic and sad. But it can be hard to sympathize when you won't lift a finger to help yourself, and instead persist with dishonest behaviour.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

If not, they can laugh all they want but I will not be talked down to anymore.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you will. You're not going anywhere, and you have no control over your own behaviour, still less over anyone else's.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Angakuk

No one has asked you and no one is likely to, given your ignorance of all things scientific.

Well don't ask me; follow the observations and reasoning, and have patience because the verdict is not in.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Don't test your luck Angakuk. I'm not in the mood for your quips. If you rub me the wrong way enough times, you're going to ignore island.

Originally Posted by Angakuk

Just sayin, you better have your fishing gear and your life jacket, and don't forget your spear. This island is like Alcatraz and the only way to get off is to be nice and to give up sarcasm. Most of those on ignore island are lifers because they can't control themselves.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

People are glued to this thread; I didn't say this is the only thread people go to.

Originally Posted by Angakuk

If they can, and do, go to other threads then it follows that, unlike you, they are not glued to this one.

Angakuk, prove to me that you're not glued to this thread and don't come here for a month. See if you can do it. Then I'll know you're not glued.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

The Bible.

Through man's actions, which proves God (or for the benefit of the atheists, a mathematical revelation) a reality.

Maybe if you had actually paid attention to what she wrote you could answer that question for yourself. [Hint: She also made no reference to an anti-parasitic.]

Okay, she mentioned the disease which was not even what was under discussion. You're right, I didn't read carefully. So what. I never said I was perfect, and for people to think that this mistake makes the entire book a mistake is the most illogical form of reasoning I have yet to encounter.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

people don't go to threads and spend hours of their day reading what they consider utter nonsense.

Now this is quite untrue, I've spent hours reading the Hitch-Hiker trilogy which is full of nonsense but amusing in a 'funny ha ha' sort of way. Unlike your posts in this thread and the book which are full of nonsense and amusing in a 'funny sad' sort of way.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Thanks for the comic relief. It gave me a chuckle.

My post and the song were not comic in any way, I leave that to your posts on this thread. You really do have things backwards.

[LadyShea]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Whether I'm the draw or not, people don't go to threads and spend hours of their day reading what they consider utter nonsense.

LOL, you don't know the Internet very well at all.

I know that people here love to find someone to laugh at, but this is no laughing matter and I think deep down people realize that.

It's very laughable. From Internet Checkers to recalculating the speed of light. You're pretty hilarious much of the time.

If not, they can laugh all they want but I will not be talked down to anymore.

Does that mean you're leaving or pretending to leave once again?