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Old 08-11-2006, 02:10 AM
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That depends on posts/page, and anyway it's 4 votes out of date, and anyway, Julie asked for it. :ptht:
Huh, I didn't realize posts per page was a profile setting. I try to make sure there's a tally somewhere on each page, which for me is 25 posts. I knew there were four votes since last tally and that Julie had requested an update, I just didn't get why you'd gone as far back as post #267 when you could've just scrolled up, copied my last tally and added the four recent changes.
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Old 08-11-2006, 02:16 AM
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Current Tally - 8 Votes needed to Lynch

PlayerX {voted for} PlayerY

cappuccino -> godfry n. glad
Ensign Steve -> NC Kev
Julie
Leesifer -> godfry n. glad
NC Kev -> godfry n. glad
Sock Puppet -> godfry n. glad
balluga -> NC Kev
MonCapitan2002 -> Leesifer
Nightson -> NC Kev
slimshady2357 -> Leesifer
Joshua Adams -> Leesifer
Adam -> Leesifer
godfry n. glad -> NC Kev
TomJoe -> slimshady2357
trillian -> Nightson

Spenser (townie) - mod killed, day 1
beyelzu (townie)- mod killed, day 1

Total votes for:

godfry n. glad - 4
Leesifer - 4
NC Kev - 4
Nightson - 1
slimshady2357 - 1
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Old 08-11-2006, 02:29 AM
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I'm displaying 40 posts per page, so we're on page 8, and the previous tally was on page 7. I didn't realize it was there so I just made my own tally out of my text file. I went back to post 267 because I saw your tally (although I can't remember what the hell I was doing on the previous page that I saw it) and realized it contained a vote that I had missed, therefore I went back and looked for said vote.
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Old 08-11-2006, 02:39 AM
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Understood!

Thank the gods we worked that one out. :phew:
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Old 08-11-2006, 02:43 AM
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I'm displaying 40 posts per page, so we're on page 8, and the previous tally was on page 7. I didn't realize it was there so I just made my own tally out of my text file. I went back to post 267 because I saw your tally (although I can't remember what the hell I was doing on the previous page that I saw it) and realized it contained a vote that I had missed, therefore I went back and looked for said vote.
Your tally is much more useful to me, Joshua. The history, which includes the changes in votes, is useful data. vm's tallies don't contain that.
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:03 AM
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Hmm, I think it's going to be hard to get a consensus here with the vote evenly split. Assuming Trillain, Julie, and TomJoe don't decide to all vote for one o fthe vote leaders, some people are going to have to switch votes. However you should only switch your vote if you think the person your switching too is scum as well as the person your currently voting for. For example, I don't think either Lees or godfrey are scum and as such I won't be voting for them just to move the game along.
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:06 AM
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ok...between jacuzzi sessions.... <snip>

edited my vote change. Considering the day is already slow, no rush to vote for yet another innocent. I'll keep my nightson vote for now. I'll be back later this afternoon if I can get my ass back to sleep.

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Old 08-11-2006, 03:14 AM
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unvote: Leesifer because someone pointed out awhile ago that a mafia probably wouldn't dare to be noticeably aggressive so early on. It just draws attention to yourself. Similarly, I don't suspect TomJoe.

I don't really see anything in particular about NC Kev.
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:39 AM
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So, Julie, who do you vote for? There are three good bandwagons to join, so take your pick. :wave:

I am just trying to get you more involved, and to get your opinion. Having a voting record for all people is a good thing in this game.
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:01 AM
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LOL I don't want a waffeling voting record ;) Thats why I havn't voted yet.

I don't think Lees is scum. I'm unsure of Nc kev

I'm going to go with vote:Godfry n glad
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:02 AM
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Here is my vote history: I voted for beyelzu to begin with, basically it was revenge for his getting me lynched the last game, then I voted Spenser since he was going to be gone, then it was back to beyelzu,
Before, you said your vote for beyelzu was random... :chin:
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now I am at godfry because he not only started the bandwagon against me but serveral others.
Actually, godfry didn't start a bandwagon against anyone but you. MonCapitan was the first one to vote for Leesifer, and I was the second, having already voiced suspicion of her; both MonCap's vote and my initial suspicion of Lees were before godfry even posted his suspicions of you, Lees, and TomJoe. And nobody's even voting for TomJoe.
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:04 AM
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Here is my vote history: I voted for beyelzu to begin with, basically it was revenge for his getting me lynched the last game...
Before, you said your vote for beyelzu was random... :chin:
Given that the last game has nothing to do with the current game, then that does seem pretty random. :shrug:
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:22 AM
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Well, there's a distinction between voting for someone because they were evil last game (basically random, since it's on par with things like "your avatar is supicious!"), and voting for someone because they voted for you last game. The latter isn't so much a "random vote" as an attempt to get back at someone for the fact that they contributed to your early elimination, thus, ruining your fun.

Even though the two games aren't related, we are still the same people playing, and everyone who voted to lynch Kev on day one sort of fucked him out of playing the game. That's a meta-game consideration, but still, it's there.
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:28 AM
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Ah, when you put it that way, I see the distinction. I wasn't in the last game, so I'm a bit slow on the uptake. :dopey:
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:33 AM
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Of course, I am in no position to say whether NC Kev was really thinking along those lines. And I also suppose it's not very wise to read his posts as some revealing self-contradiction, since mafiosos would probably take care not to do that sort of thing.

I did however want to set the record straight with his comments on godfry, since those were inaccurate, and deliberate use of bad arguments is a way for mafia to cast doubt on innocents (That scenario may or may not be what happened, of course).
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:35 AM
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Even though the two games aren't related, we are still the same people playing, and everyone who voted to lynch Kev on day one sort of fucked him out of playing the game. That's a meta-game consideration, but still, it's there.
Did you mean to say bey or Kev? Sorry, I am really that slow. :dopey:
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:37 AM
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I meant to say Kev. I was talking about game 2 there, where Kev was lynched on day one.
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:38 AM
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:doh: Man I can barely keep up with the one game. You guys amaze me with your metagame analysis.
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Old 08-11-2006, 04:43 AM
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I'm not really analyzing behavior across multiple games, though, at least in this instance. I only brought up game two because Kev did, when he labelled his vote as a revenge vote for something that happened that game. Rather than being amazed you should just be disgusted with my pedantry. :P
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Old 08-11-2006, 06:28 AM
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LOL I don't want a waffeling voting record ;) Thats why I havn't voted yet.
I think that by the end of tonight, quite a few people will have changed their vote at least once. Now we know where you stand and cant say that you have been trying to fly under the radar. Whenever you want to change your vote, just give a valid reason, not a "unvote; vote: random; because I can" type thing and all should be good.

Although this day is moving slow, I think that we will get the most information out of this day than any of the other first days. See you tomorrow.
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Old 08-11-2006, 07:20 AM
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*is awaiting explanation from NC Kev before making his case*
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Old 08-11-2006, 09:52 AM
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Well more action, but we're not really any closer to lynching someone. The evidence is fairly weak all across the board and right now the biggest overt suspicious action is still the strange way Lees was talking about ES. But my gut tells me she's townie, so I don't know what to do.

The biggest suspicious non-action still comes from trillian in my opinion. She still has barely commented at all on what has happened, even though she's been by at least twice now since loads of stuff has gone down. It seems almost uber-flyng low.

I know I don't have many posts, but if you check them out, I do try to make a few observations and let the town know where my thinking is at the moment whenever I post. Plus, like now, there is usually no one here when I post, because of the time differences. So I don't get much of a chance to boost my posts here with banter/chatter. Having said that, I don't blame TJ for voting for me, especially when you consider how weak any and all of our evidence is right now.

Frickin' hell it's so hard to tell the difference between strange behaviour and noob behaviour and even just strange innocent behaviour.

Looking at the list of players... I think if Lees is scum, so is ES probably, Mon Cap is still on my list, as is trillian, for reasons mentioned. godfry does seem a little suspicious, but it could be just noob stuff. And there are a TON of people that I just don't have much feel for at all.

I really don't know.... but I'm at least going to go with my gut and unvote Lees.
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Old 08-11-2006, 10:44 AM
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A wise and correct move, slim. :yup:

I am most definitely a townie and have now explained twice my reasoning behind what I said to ES. That's all water under the bridge now anyway.

I'm considering what you said about Trillian too. Very interesting.
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Old 08-11-2006, 11:07 AM
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Well I feel like a really big dork, I made a spreadsheet with everyon'es voting history, which vote they were and they're reason for doing it. Then I gave them a score just based on their voting pattern. Higher numbers good, lower numbers bad.

cappuccino -> 0
Ensign Steve -> +1
Julie -> -2
Leesifer -> 0
NC Kev -> -2
Sock Puppet -> -1
balluga -> +1
MonCapitan2002 -> +1
Nightson -> +1
slimshady2357 -> +2
Joshua Adams -> +1
Adam -> +1
godfry n. glad -> +1
TomJoe -> +2
trillian -> 0

Or in order
People I think might be mafia:
Julie
NC Kev

People who are suspicious:
Sock Puppet
trillian
Leesifer
cappuccino

People who probably aren't mafia:
Ensign steve
balluga
MonCapitan2002
Joshua Adams
Adam
godfry n. glad

People who aren't on my radar(yet):
slimshady2357
TomJoe

People who I know are town but everybody else doesn't know:
Nightson
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Old 08-11-2006, 11:08 AM
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That's all water under the bridge now anyway.
You say that now, but wait till you get lynched in the endgame for it. :P
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