A revolution in thought

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

All I did in my compilation was to put all of his books together because he kept taking more and more out to simplify it.

Originally Posted by Chuck

peacegirl, this latest unconvincing attempt to minimize how you have corrupted the Authentic Text is not even consistent with your shifting accounts made over the past few days:

He replaced this, not me.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Yes, I changed molecules to photons. Big fuckin deal.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I took out "mathematically impossible" in that one sentence because it wasn't necessary.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

my version is quite good due to my added examples.

Originally Posted by Chuck

The fact that you did not even recognize the Authentic Text lays bare the extent of your corruption:

Originally Posted by Chuck

I do not believe you have the Authentic Text in your possession as you claim.

I do. If anybody wants to buy one of the originals, they can get it from me.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

He replaced this, not me.

Then why did you write "I have replaced . . ."? Your defense of your corruption of the Authentic Text is not credible.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Then why did you write "I have replaced . . ."? Your defense of your corruption of the Authentic Text is not credible.

It was replaced. The changes were his. They're right there in black and white.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

It was replaced. The changes were his. They're right there in black and white.

Still you attempt to blur the line between the Authentic Text and the corruptions you have done to it. But you do not persuade. The Corrupted Text is corrupt.

[Stephen Maturin]

Chuck, is there a passage in the Authentic Text in which Larry, Jim, Charlie and Harry go on a road trip to TJ and take in a donkey show? (I'd ask peacegirl, but she's been caught in 15-20 new lies since the Authentic Text came to light.)

[davidm]

Peacegirl, once you scrap the corrupted text and return to the authentic text, we can work out some high-concept cover art for you. Remember, you’ll have to change the title to “Juicy Cunt.” You can also purchase Henry Miller’s “Crazy Cock” and these books can be bookends on your shelf, especially appropriate given that Lessans and Miller have more than a passing physical and mental retardation resemblance.

Here’s what I’m toying with so far: a cover that will exemplify Lessans’ twin obsessions, namely juicy cunts and the best damned Monday night spaghetti and meatballs ever. I am seeking something vagina-suggesting about spaghetti and meatballs, but so far I have had no luck. I have, however, located a lovely pepperoni pizza that might do the trick. If we go with the pizza cover, can you just go ahead and change the text to say, “the best damned Monday night pepperoni pizza ever?” It should be no problem for you to alter the text, since you’ve already changed most of it anyway. Here is the gist of my cover art idea:

JUICY CUNT

By Seymour Lessans
The original, authentic and unexpurgated text

Let me know how this works for you.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Still you attempt to blur the line between the Authentic Text and the corruptions you have done to it. But you do not persuade. The Corrupted Text is corrupt.

So read the original and tell me what his first discovery is. You can't, and you know it. I am finished defending my version versus his version. You've already expressed yourself, now move on.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by davidm

Peacegirl, once you scrap the corrupted text and return to the authentic text, we can work out some high-concept cover art for you. Remember, you’ll have to change the title to “Juicy Cunt.” You can also purchase Henry Miller’s “Crazy Cock” and these books can be bookends on your shelf, especially appropriate given that Lessans and Miller have more than a passing physical and mental retardation resemblance.

Here’s what I’m toying with so far: a cover that will exemplify Lessans’ twin obsessions, namely juicy cunts and the best damned Monday night spaghetti and meatballs ever. I am seeking something vagina-suggesting about spaghetti and meatballs, but so far I have had no luck. I have, however, located a lovely pepperoni pizza that might do the trick. If we go with the pizza cover, can you just go ahead and change the text to say, “the best damned Monday night pepperoni pizza ever?” It should be no problem for you to alter the text, since you’ve already changed most of it anyway. Here is the gist of my cover art idea:

JUICY CUNT

By Seymour Lessans
The original, authentic and unexpurgated text

Let me know how this works for you.

Time to put you on ignore.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I am finished defending my version versus his version.

peacegirl, your Corrupted Text is of no interest. Your Corrupted Text tells us nothing except that you have corrupted the Authentic Text.

[davidm]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

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Time to put you on ignore.

I'm sorry you feel this way. Do you have something against pepperoni pizza? As I mentioned, I have looked for vagina-themed spaghetti and meatballs, but have had no luck so far.

Perhaps a compromise is in order? What other juicy foodstuffs did Lessans crave? I'm sure there will be no problem in coming with a combination of the gustatory and the erotic that you will find acceptable.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

So read the original and tell me what his first discovery is. You can't, and you know it.

Speaking of the first "discovery" (that Man Does Not Have Five Senses sic), have I already shared this legitimately horrifying passage in support of such "discovery" from the Authentic Text?

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Speaking of the first "discovery" (that Man Does Not Have Five Senses sic), have I already shared this legitimately horrifying passage in support of such "discovery" from the Authentic Text?

Explain his other discovery. Share with me what you have learned from his book. All you're doing is deflecting so that you don't have to answer the more important questions. I'm not going to continue this conversation because it's stupid.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

Speaking of the first "discovery" (that Man Does Not Have Five Senses sic), have I already shared this legitimately horrifying passage in support of such "discovery" from the Authentic Text?

Christ Almighty, what a fucking freak.

[Vivisectus]

It is undeniable that your version has been changed so much you did not even recognize the real version anymore - you did not even know which book it was!

And we have also seen that the corrupted version states the exact opposite of the original in at least one area.

But perhaps the worst thing is the way you used this book to further your own anti-vaccine biases as well... you used a book intended to save the world as a vehicle for your anti-vaxx screed!

What if someone was to agree with the book, and then came across your half-witted anti vaxxery? They are likely to conclude the whole thing is as anti-scientific as anti-vaxx quackery!

If you want to write anti-vaccine propaganda, go ahead and write your own book. In stead you tried to highjack the authority of someone whose system was designed to save the world, just to get your petty hatred for scientific medicine across! That is even worse than corrupting the text out of simple ignorance, the way you have already done.

Some way to look after an important legacy. Use it to further your own pet hatreds, and to try and sneak them into a book you hope is going to be used as a blueprint for future generations - which is dishinest enough - but also running the very real risk of associating it with the crackpots, holocaust deniers, racists, quacks and general nutcases that you keep quoting as sources for your anti-vaxx idiocy!

Shameful.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

It is undeniable that your version has been changed so much you did not even recognize the real version anymore - you did not even know which book it was!

And we have also seen that the corrupted version states the exact opposite of the original in at least one area.

But perhaps the worst thing is the way you used this book to further your own anti-vaccine biases as well... you used a book intended to save the world as a vehicle for your anti-vaxx screed!

What if someone was to agree with the book, and then came across your half-witted anti vaxxery? They are likely to conclude the whole thing is as anti-scientific as anti-vaxx quackery!

If you want to write anti-vaccine propaganda, go ahead and write your own book. In stead you tried to highjack the authority of someone whose system was designed to save the world, just to get your petty hatred for scientific medicine across! That is even worse than corrupting the text out of simple ignorance, the way you have already done.

Some way to look after an important legacy. Use it to further your own pet hatreds, and to try and sneak them into a book you hope is going to be used as a blueprint for future generations - which is dishinest enough - but also running the very real risk of associating it with the crackpots, holocaust deniers, racists, quacks and general nutcases that you keep quoting as sources for your anti-vaxx idiocy!

Shameful.

I can't help but laugh my head off. I never gave a pet hatred to be used as a blueprint for future generations. I gave vaccines as an example of how these principles work. I'm not the one looking stupid here. I'm stopping this ridiculous conversation with Chuck.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I am finished defending my version versus his version.

Smart move. There's no point in trying to defend the indefensible.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I'm stopping this ridiculous conversation with Chuck.

peacegirl, is the Authentic Text so repugnant to you?

[davidm]

Peacegirl, what about a nice grapefruit-themed cover? Grapefruits are p. juicy. Did Lessans like grapefruit? You could change the text to say, “the best damned Monday night grapefruit dinner ever.”

JUICY CUNT

By Seymour Lessans
The Original, Authentic, Unrafaelilzed Text

Also, please, does the authentic text have more about peeling off the eyelids of children and imprisoning them in a soundproof room for half a century and feeding them intravenously?

[Vivisectus]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I can't help but laugh my head off. I never gave a pet hatred to be used as a blueprint for future generations. I gave vaccines as an example of how these principles work. I'm not the one looking stupid here. I'm stopping this ridiculous conversation with Chuck.

No, but you tried to sneak your pet hatred into the blueprint. There is no trace of anti-vaxx sentiment in the uncorrupted text: that is just you, trying to use your fathers legacy as a vehicle for anti-vaxx propaganda. That is very unprincipled indeed.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Vivisectus

No, but you tried to sneak your pet hatred into the blueprint. There is no trace of anti-vaxx sentiment in the uncorrupted text: that is just you, trying to use your fathers legacy as a vehicle for anti-vaxx propaganda. That is very unprincipled indeed.

I didn't sneak anything. I gave an example to show why no doctor and no government agency would ever mandate vaccines. They could if they wanted to, because no one would be telling them what to do, but how could they want to knowing that if a child was severely injured or died, it would be on their conscience. Who would want to carry that kind of burden? And for what? They would explain what the vaccine does, and what the known risks and benefits are. They would then leave it up to the parent to make an informed decision. There is nothing wrong with this example.

[Stephen Maturin]

[ceptimus]

I'm interested in whether some of the more comedic passages of the text I've seen have been bowdlerized when compared to the 1971 edition.

I’ll never forget the time [my mother] had a doctor come to the house even
though she was perfectly well in order to teach me a lesson. She
pretended she was very sick and told the doctor she didn’t know what
was wrong. After examining her the doctor prescribed some medicine
which she ordered right away. He instructed her to follow the
directions carefully so that the medicine would take immediate effect.
Otherwise she could get sicker, he warned. When the medicine came
she said, “Now watch son,” as she poured the entire bottle right down
the drain. “Why did you do that, mom, you wasted it?” She replied,
“The doctor and pharmacist have to earn a living and I helped them
in this respect but I certainly don’t have to follow their advice. I
wasn’t even sick but the doctor prescribed medicine anyway. The
difference between him and I is that he has more faith in the medicine
and I have more faith in my body’s natural healing power.”

Oh look! Here comes a Rabbi!

[ChuckF]

I will look more closely when I get home, but I don't think that is in the Authentic Text. There is a ponderous and rather bland section about how doctors will work for free (demonstrated through a somewhat bizarre parable about a husband who visits a doctor because his wife's breasts are sore) and LSD will be sold OTC. It didn't stick in my mind as much as the sexier bits, I think probably because it comes just after a pretty long trudge through how the world economy will be re-ordered through global ID cards and IBM.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

I will look more closely when I get home, but I don't think that is in the Authentic Text. There is a ponderous and rather bland section about how doctors will work for free (demonstrated through a somewhat bizarre parable amount a husband who visits a doctor because his wife's breasts are sore) and LSD will be sold OTC. It didn't stick in my mind as much as the sexier bits, I think probably because it comes just after a pretty long trudge through how the world economy will be re-ordered through global ID cards and IBM.

Doctors will not work for free. You're skipping through the book without having any understanding of the foundational principles. He urged people to read from the beginning or it would seem like a fairy tale. You will never understand the significance of this work by glossing over it. I don't know if you're doing this on purpose so you can get your entertainment for the day, or you're doing it inadvertently. Regardless, you aren't reading the book the way it's meant to be read. Further, you're making it seem like he is endorsing drug use. It's the complete opposite.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by ceptimus

I'm interested in whether some of the more comedic passages of the text I've seen have been bowdlerized when compared to the 1971 edition.

The story about how Seymour's mother, Baby Jane Lessans, defrauded a doctor into making a house call and got him to dispense medication by lying to him is interesting. When the story first came up in this thread peacegirl told us that it might not be true at all. In all subsequent discussions of the topic, peacegirl has defended Baby Jane's misconduct vigorously. As always, peacegirl simply doesn't know what happened.

It doesn't appear that imaginary rabbis were part of the Authentic Text. It appears they came later, although it's unclear whether the Messiah or vacuous hack responsible for the Corrupted Text invented them.

Originally Posted by ChuckF

somewhat bizarre parable amount a husband who visits a doctor because his wife's breasts are sore

So husbands have some sort of ownership interest in their wives' cans, eh? I wonder if the Messiah was a Russ Meyer fan in addition to being a prescious, juicy cunt aficionado.

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