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Old 07-27-2009, 09:39 PM
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So it's the Obama Disney Al Gayda theme park. Will there be a Magic Mountain?
Of course. They'll have a full scale replica of that famous mountain that nobody can ever seem to bring to Mohammad.
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Old 07-27-2009, 09:42 PM
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Yeah, that always struck me as a total Muslim fail. Until now. Make it a themed ride, win converts.
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Old 07-29-2009, 05:20 PM
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Ars Technica has a good write up of what the AP is actually doing...and it's even stupider than I thought. Apparently, it's just a markup format that will give publishers a way to specify what uses they approve and prohibit for a given piece of text, and it's not like some publisher saying that they don't approve a use that's legal under copyright law magically overrides the law, no matter how fancy and bleeding edge 1989 the technology they use to say it might be.

Also, the AP apparently provided this helpful image demonstrating how their new technology works:



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Old 07-29-2009, 05:28 PM
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That reminds me of those Heimlich Maneuver posters.
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Old 07-29-2009, 06:00 PM
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Where's the cloud? How do I know there's magic happening if there's no cloud?
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Old 07-29-2009, 06:05 PM
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I think the magic happens inside the little broadcast tower that's being dumped into the cardboard box.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:22 PM
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Nice clip art. Why does the news consumer wind up in a 55 gallon oil drum?

ETA: Isn't that like a disk failure alert or something?

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Why does the news consumer wind up in a 55 gallon oil drum?
Rendered down for their body fat in order to help fuel the economy?
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Old 07-30-2009, 06:47 AM
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I was going to guess, they fill the drum with concrete and dump it at the docks, but Zehava's solution's got the whole recycling/fixing the energy solution all tied up!
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I love this guy. He has the most random ideas.

Ironic Sans: Idea: The Smiley as AP Copy Protection
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What should AP do?
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Found this posted on a another forum:



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What should AP do?
I honestly don't know. The short answer is that they should probably not waste time and effort on silly document markup schemes that don't really address their problems, especially if they're going to pretend that their silly markup scheme is actually a silly DRM scheme that will both fail to address their problem and piss off their customers.
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I love this guy. He has the most random ideas.

Ironic Sans: Idea: The Smiley as AP Copy Protection
I'd be amused if something like this actually worked. It would probably be more effective then the scheme they recently hatched.
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If they DRMed their articles to be replaced with :lolhog: I don't think anyone would mind.
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This little knee-slapper led me to the "iCopyright" (omg look how hip they are with a lower-case i in front of the word copyright that is so edgy it makes me want to go illegally download some iAlbums of iPopularMusic) Terms of Service. iCopyright is the AP's contracted licensing whatever provider:

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You shall not use the Content in any manner or context that will be in any way derogatory to the author, the publication from which the Content came, or any person connected with the creation of the Content or depicted in the Content. You agree not to use the Content in any manner or context that will be in any way derogatory to or damaging to the reputation of Publisher, its licensors, or any person connected with the creation of the Content or referenced in the Content. You shall not use the Licensed Content for any unlawful purpose, and You shall comply with all laws and regulations. Without limiting the foregoing, You represent and warrant that the Content will not be utilized in association with gambling or the distribution, promotion or sale of pornographic, racial or political Content, propaganda or product.
There will be no further mockery of the Associated Press ITT! :Cartler:
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Reuters steps into the breach.

Chris Ahearn, President, Media at ReutersTo start, yes the global economy is fairly grim and the cyclical aspects of our business are biting extremely hard in the face of the structural changes. But the Internet isn’t killing the news business any more than TV killed radio or radio killed the newspaper. Incumbent business leaders in news haven’t been keeping up. Many leaders continue to help push the business into the ditch by wasting "resources" (management speak for talented people) on recycling commodity news. Reader habits are changing and vertically curated views need to be meshed with horizontal read-around ones.

Blaming the new leaders or aggregators for disrupting the business of the old leaders, or saber-rattling and threatening to sue are not business strategies – they are personal therapy sessions. Go ask a music executive how well it works.
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Murdoch owned Newscorp is now going to start charging as well.

News Corp. news sites to charge fees | Marketplace From American Public Media

I heard a radio broadcast about the media shake up in film on NPR, but I can't find the book or author, unless it's by the Brookings Institute.

http://www.brookings.edu/events/2009...ws_future.aspx it wasn't this one.

It might have been this author who was speaking:
http://www.brookings.edu/papers/2009/05_news_west.aspx
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I wonder if they are going to offer new/better content or if it's just an attempt to get more money from the consumer.

Who ever can design a working online news/magazine charge model will win big bucks, so far it's all a bunch of whining and doing stupid things like DRM and charging for previously free content.
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The guy I heard on the radio, said at one point the various media agencies talked about having a combined subscription service. That may have worked, but since we are already used to mostly ad free (or easy to ignore advertizing) and free content, that was a genie they'd have a hard time putting back in the bottle.
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-- they threatened to sue Christian Forums for quoting articles in posts, even with attribution --
Gawd, I had so many arguments about AP's copyright with people at CF. I was in Erwin's ear about it all the time. And that must be 5 or 6 years ago now.
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What should AP do?
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All news services must have some kind of business model. It used to be in charging a nominal fee for a print newspaper, with most costs and profits coming from advertising. Without a business model they don't have a news service. Why should they work for free?
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