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Old 07-26-2006, 05:04 PM
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lol...my whole point is about helping. in fact, as i see it, my kind of helping would have a bigger impact...
... if, y'know, you actually did anything.
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Old 07-26-2006, 05:08 PM
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i'm doing it right now- staying true to a different truth that i think might help, in the face of insults and persecution from people who are too busy keeping it real...

and reality is what you get :)

i want a different one...without drugs :D
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The simple answer to your post is because we care. Why do we care? Because we choose to. Sure you can choose to not care and go on with your life. That is fine. I will not judge you for that. It is your right, your choice to make.

I agree with your point that there are many problems that are much closer to home that we should be giving our energy to, and with that in mind it is important to be mindful and compassionate in our daily lives, but that does not mean we should ignore world events as if they don't effect us. If this thing manages to blow up into a much wider and serious conflict and it interupts the flow of oil out of that region, you'd better believe that we will all be effected by it. Not to mention the subtler effects this type of violence has on our society subconsciously.

We have things pretty good here in America, and as a result we take a lot of things for granted. Because we are the most influential and powerful country right now I feel we have a responsibility to do the right thing. To set an example for the world to follow. Imagine what kind of world it would be if everyone followed our example. Have we set a good example? What if countries started invading each other in pre-emptive wars based on faulty intelligence because they honestly *thought* the other country might be a threat at some point in the future. Is that the kind of world you want to live in? Theoretically the responsibility for the actions of our government falls to every single citizen of this country. Whether you choose to deny that responsibility is your choice.

Obviously it's an ideological war. I'm an idealist. I'll admit that, and you can laugh at me... whatever. I believe that we as a species can evolve beyond our monkey instincts. It's a choice. People say there will never be peace in the world, but that is only because they believe thats the case. If everyone believes peace is possible then suddenly it is.
Well said, Fibonacci. :)
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Old 07-27-2006, 03:26 AM
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The simple answer to your post is because we care. Why do we care? Because we choose to. Sure you can choose to not care and go on with your life. That is fine. I will not judge you for that. It is your right, your choice to make.

I agree with your point that there are many problems that are much closer to home that we should be giving our energy to, and with that in mind it is important to be mindful and compassionate in our daily lives, but that does not mean we should ignore world events as if they don't effect us. If this thing manages to blow up into a much wider and serious conflict and it interupts the flow of oil out of that region, you'd better believe that we will all be effected by it. Not to mention the subtler effects this type of violence has on our society subconsciously.

We have things pretty good here in America, and as a result we take a lot of things for granted. Because we are the most influential and powerful country right now I feel we have a responsibility to do the right thing. To set an example for the world to follow. Imagine what kind of world it would be if everyone followed our example. Have we set a good example? What if countries started invading each other in pre-emptive wars based on faulty intelligence because they honestly *thought* the other country might be a threat at some point in the future. Is that the kind of world you want to live in? Theoretically the responsibility for the actions of our government falls to every single citizen of this country. Whether you choose to deny that responsibility is your choice.

Obviously it's an ideological war. I'm an idealist. I'll admit that, and you can laugh at me... whatever. I believe that we as a species can evolve beyond our monkey instincts. It's a choice. People say there will never be peace in the world, but that is only because they believe thats the case. If everyone believes peace is possible then suddenly it is.
Ditto these fine sentiments, especially this: Obviously it's an ideological war. I'm an idealist.

I am pleased with the war for religious and political freedom in Lebanon. Honorable ideals are part of the American and Israeli national character. :innocent:
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The simple answer to your post is because we care. Why do we care? Because we choose to. Sure you can choose to not care and go on with your life. That is fine. I will not judge you for that. It is your right, your choice to make.

I agree with your point that there are many problems that are much closer to home that we should be giving our energy to, and with that in mind it is important to be mindful and compassionate in our daily lives, but that does not mean we should ignore world events as if they don't effect us. If this thing manages to blow up into a much wider and serious conflict and it interupts the flow of oil out of that region, you'd better believe that we will all be effected by it. Not to mention the subtler effects this type of violence has on our society subconsciously.

We have things pretty good here in America, and as a result we take a lot of things for granted. Because we are the most influential and powerful country right now I feel we have a responsibility to do the right thing. To set an example for the world to follow. Imagine what kind of world it would be if everyone followed our example. Have we set a good example? What if countries started invading each other in pre-emptive wars based on faulty intelligence because they honestly *thought* the other country might be a threat at some point in the future. Is that the kind of world you want to live in? Theoretically the responsibility for the actions of our government falls to every single citizen of this country. Whether you choose to deny that responsibility is your choice.

Obviously it's an ideological war. I'm an idealist. I'll admit that, and you can laugh at me... whatever. I believe that we as a species can evolve beyond our monkey instincts. It's a choice. People say there will never be peace in the world, but that is only because they believe thats the case. If everyone believes peace is possible then suddenly it is.
Ditto these fine sentiments, especially this: Obviously it's an ideological war. I'm an idealist.

I am pleased with the war for religious and political freedom in Lebanon. Honorable ideals are part of the American and Israeli national character. :innocent:

And they will all live happily ever after.

I guess it is easier to believe in fairy tales if you believe in a good god who will punish you for the character flaws he created you with in the first place, who has a son who is also him and prayed to himself and sacrificed himself to himself to save mankind from the punishment he was gonna give them himself.

In the real world Israel is now destroying a government that the US hailed as the first sign of a new democratic Middle East just a few months ago, killing hundreds of innocent people (including Canadian citizens, UN observers, ambulance drivers (they have a neat hole right in the middle of the red cross on the top thanks to precision bombs supplied by the US), relief truck drivers, refugees inside a church, whole families etcetera. Oh and about a third of the victims are children btw) and driving about 800.000 people from their homes.

And on top of all that, the military offensive itself where they are shooting at people who actually shoot back, is going so bad more and more observers are asking themselves: 'Is Israel losing?'
Here
and here
But I'm sure their friends will help them out with a Secturity Council veto here and some shiploads there of more of those precision bombs that worked so well on the UN post...
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Old 07-29-2006, 10:21 AM
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