Mafia - Game III - Page 28

Julie · #**676** 08-16-2006, 06:53 PM

I don't know what to think.

If capp really is the doc then Im totally wrong about lees. If I'm totally wrong about lees then I'm totally wrong about everyone else.

I don't know if capp is the doc, it would be smart to claim a special role if your about to be lynched, it would at least give one more nightfall...but I don;t see how much good that would do either.

Tomjoe, I think might just be a way over enthuhsiastic townie.

I just don't know!

TomJoe · #**677** 08-16-2006, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Julie

I don't know what to think.

If capp really is the doc then Im totally wrong about lees. If I'm totally wrong about lees then I'm totally wrong about everyone else.

I don't know if capp is the doc, it would be smart to claim a special role if your about to be lynched, it would at least give one more nightfall...but I don;t see how much good that would do either.

Tomjoe, I think might just be a way over enthuhsiastic townie.

I just don't know!

Capp is claiming to be the cop. The doc is dead. Claiming a special role, like the cop, who can out mafia ... would only work if the doc were still alive. If capp is the cop, he's dead tonight. There was no point in him revealing.

balluga · #**678** 08-16-2006, 06:55 PM

The way capp reacted to being fingered doesnt seem like a cop to me. The cop should just ignore the early votes, and try not to bring attention to themself. With the doc dead, it makes no sense for the cop to out themself with only one known person, even if that person was mafia. One person doesnt tell us anything, and they both can be taken care of. The cop should wait until at least day two to make what they know known, to give the town more of a chance to use it. Capp should have realized that defending someone that they know is innocent that strongly is going to signal people and some might read it the wrong way, if capp is the cop. It could also be the mafia trying to save one of their own.

cappuccino · #**679** 08-16-2006, 06:56 PM

Julie, I'm not the doc, I'm the cop. Godfry was the doc and he's dead.

balluga, it wasn't easy for me to ignore the earlier votes. I got worried because I didn't want to die too early in the game. You're assuming that I'm an ideal cop, I'm not. I'm sure I've made plenty of mistakes in this game but I'm trying to work my way though the game just like you are. I don't have a magic weapon other than my suspicions and my ability to view people at night.

Kevlar · #**680** 08-16-2006, 06:58 PM

I don't really have any hard suspicions on TomJoe, but even if he is a townie, he's not helping us by kicking up so much dust. So, IMO, if we don't kill him, he might in turn get us all killed.

balluga · #**681** 08-16-2006, 07:00 PM

Yeah, the mafia can only safely claim cop when the doc is dead. The trade of mafia for cop is a very pofitable one for the mafia. I think that the real cop has done the right thing by not coming out to rebut capp. I know that it is hard for some people to vote to lynch someone who is claming a role, but for the town you must. Having the real cop live for another night with the maifa not knowning who they are will give the town a large boost in this game.

cappuccino · #**682** 08-16-2006, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TomJoe

Capp is claiming to be the cop. The doc is dead. Claiming a special role, like the cop, who can out mafia ... would only work if the doc were still alive. If capp is the cop, he's dead tonight. There was no point in him revealing.

There is every point in me revealing. It doesn't matter if the doc is alive or not. A cop should always reveal himself if he's about to be lynched. At the very least, he'll be able to tell who he viewed and if the person is guilty or not. That's an essential piece of information for the townies to know.

Simple as that. You're the one who's wrong about whether a cop should come out or not.

Julie · #**683** 08-16-2006, 07:00 PM

unvote voteTomJoe

Ok I've come to the conclusion he's either mafia or a very very veyr dangerous townie, neither of which is good for us at this point.

Leesifer · #**684** 08-16-2006, 07:01 PM

You are totally wrong about me, Julie.

However, TomJoe, like MonCapitan is so certain that I am a baddie that they will not listen to any reasoning whatsoever. Could they be working together or are they really innocent townies.

Also, as Kev says and I said earlier, TomJoe is not helping the town by being so bullish.

TomJoe · #**685** 08-16-2006, 07:01 PM

I'm getting close to getting lynched, so here is my list of all of us ...

1. cappuccino - mob
2. sock puppet - mob
3. leesifer - traitor
4. Adam - mob?
5. Ensign Steve - unsure
6. slimshady - unsure
7. MonCap - unsure
8. trillian - townie
9. balluga - townie
10. NC Kev - townie
11. Joshua Adams - townie
12. TomJoe

I based these rankings on the early interactions, voting history/accusation comments. I assumed that mob wouldn't finger one of their own early on (to avoid starting a bandwagon). I suspected capp because he blamed like 6 or 8 people the first day, and while i was off his radar the entire day, suddenly I was enemy #1 when the lists were called for. From there, it's easy to see who he didn't interact with, blame, etc etc. He's safe blaming Leesifer because if Lees is the traitor he won't know anyways. Sock Puppet didn't start "suspecting" capp until it looked like capp might be lynched, obviously in an attempt to distance himself.

If I'm lynched, you'll see I'm not scum. Tomorrow when capp is still alive you'll know he is. Don't overanalyze folks, we're hot on their tails.

TomJoe · #**686** 08-16-2006, 07:02 PM

Does this put me at six?

balluga · #**687** 08-16-2006, 07:03 PM

Julie, NC Kev, dont vote for someone if you only think they are a townie, we need to lynch mafia tonight. Lynching a townie at this point helps to mafia too much. I urge you to vote for who you think is mafia, not just a misguided townie.

Leesifer · #**688** 08-16-2006, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TomJoe

He's safe blaming Leesifer because if Lees is the traitor he won't know anyways.

Errm, he's not blaming me for anything, TomJoe. He's said he investigated me and that I am a townie.

balluga · #**689** 08-16-2006, 07:04 PM

TomJoe, there is nothing else that you can say.

TomJoe · #**690** 08-16-2006, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Soubrette

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Originally Posted by TomJoe

But it's a big IF, regarding capp being the cop. The cop has, at this point, no reason to come out. By coming out he gives the mafia/traitor two hits (him and the innocent he's just fingered) leaving us in the dark. The good move for the cop would be to lay low, list his/her suspicions in their posts, so if they get off'd people can see his/her notes.

The point of the cop coming out is so the doc can protect them. Problem is, our doc is dead. So he's a surefire kill for the mob/traitor. He gains absolutely nothing by coming out, and he screws another innocent townie. The only way I can see the cop coming out at this point is if they managed to finger a mobster last night. That way, hopefully we get two kills ... capp and the second mobster (if capp wasn't the viewed one).

That's only true if the cop isn't about to be lynched. I know capp came out one vote sooner than he should have (assuming he IS the cop), but he obviously came out because he felt he was about to be lynched.

If you're the cop and you're going to be lynched (or believe you will be) it's insane to "lay low", you have to come out.

Unfortunately, our cop has had only one view, even though 4 townies are dead. Normally, he/she would have two views by now. THANKS BEY AND SPENSER! :glare:

Will you PLEASE stay the fuck out of the game thread?

slimshady2357 · #**691** 08-16-2006, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TomJoe

But it's a big IF, regarding capp being the cop. The cop has, at this point, no reason to come out. By coming out he gives the mafia/traitor two hits (him and the innocent he's just fingered) leaving us in the dark. The good move for the cop would be to lay low, list his/her suspicions in their posts, so if they get off'd people can see his/her notes.

The point of the cop coming out is so the doc can protect them. Problem is, our doc is dead. So he's a surefire kill for the mob/traitor. He gains absolutely nothing by coming out, and he screws another innocent townie. The only way I can see the cop coming out at this point is if they managed to finger a mobster last night. That way, hopefully we get two kills ... capp and the second mobster (if capp wasn't the viewed one).

That's only true if the cop isn't about to be lynched. I know capp came out one vote sooner than he should have (assuming he IS the cop), but he obviously came out because he felt he was about to be lynched.

If you're the cop and you're going to be lynched (or believe you will be) it's insane to "lay low", you have to come out.

Unfortunately, our cop has had only one view, even though 4 townies are dead. Normally, he/she would have two views by now. THANKS BEY AND SPENSER! :glare:

slimshady2357 · #**692** 08-16-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TomJoe

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Originally Posted by Soubrette

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Originally Posted by TomJoe

But it's a big IF, regarding capp being the cop. The cop has, at this point, no reason to come out. By coming out he gives the mafia/traitor two hits (him and the innocent he's just fingered) leaving us in the dark. The good move for the cop would be to lay low, list his/her suspicions in their posts, so if they get off'd people can see his/her notes.

The point of the cop coming out is so the doc can protect them. Problem is, our doc is dead. So he's a surefire kill for the mob/traitor. He gains absolutely nothing by coming out, and he screws another innocent townie. The only way I can see the cop coming out at this point is if they managed to finger a mobster last night. That way, hopefully we get two kills ... capp and the second mobster (if capp wasn't the viewed one).

That's only true if the cop isn't about to be lynched. I know capp came out one vote sooner than he should have (assuming he IS the cop), but he obviously came out because he felt he was about to be lynched.

If you're the cop and you're going to be lynched (or believe you will be) it's insane to "lay low", you have to come out.

Unfortunately, our cop has had only one view, even though 4 townies are dead. Normally, he/she would have two views by now. THANKS BEY AND SPENSER! :glare:

Will you PLEASE stay the fuck out of the game thread?

I'll see what I can do about that :blush:

(just to be abosolutely clear it was ME and ME alone that posted that!)

TomJoe · #**693** 08-16-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by balluga

TomJoe, there is nothing else that you can say.

Yes there is, but I was hoping not to have to. But thanks to Julie and NC Kev being such rock scientists, I have no choice now.

I'm the cop. I investigated cappuccino based on his sudden vote for me on his "suspect list". I weighed coming clean when capp first revealed himself, but didn't think the tide would turn like this. I hoped to play an aggressive townie in the hopes the mob would keep me around.

Obviously my death or capp's here, eliminates both of us ... but I'd prefer the town get two bad today. The mafia will kill me tonight, you still have a chance to get capp and sock (or leesifer).

Look at my list carefully. It's not surefire, but it was based on what I knew ... capp being mob. I was planning on investigating Sock tonight. I'd highly doubt I'll be around to do so.

Julie · #**694** 08-16-2006, 07:09 PM

Oh I Not.

If capp is the cop, and he probably is*, hes been acting odd this game and it was making me wonder about him...But he claims Less is innocent, I have to take that at face value...but he also lists me as one of his top suspects and I know hes totally wrong about that...

I think right now TomJoe is my top suspect for mafia.

Although I'll say it again Adam is being very unadamesque this game

Kevlar · #**695** 08-16-2006, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by balluga

Julie, NC Kev, dont vote for someone if you only think they are a townie, we need to lynch mafia tonight. Lynching a townie at this point helps to mafia too much. I urge you to vote for who you think is mafia, not just a misguided townie.

At this point, TomJoe could be mafia as easily as the rest of us. But, if he is a townie, and he railroaded another one of us, he will get lynched tomorrow under serious suspicion. By some chance, if he doesn't get lynched tomorrow, who's to say I'm not the next innocent that gets railroaded by him.

balluga · #**696** 08-16-2006, 07:11 PM

Adam, MonCap, Juile, NC Kev: who do you think is mafia, not just a possibly misguided townie? Loosing any townie today is bad for the town, we need mafia. That also means that we might need more ideas on who to lynch.

Leesifer · #**697** 08-16-2006, 07:13 PM

WTF! All I can say is that capp is correct in his investigation of me, so I have to believe capp is the cop.

balluga · #**698** 08-16-2006, 07:13 PM

TomJoe, I got that a while ago, and was trying to run interference for you, not giving the mafia a clear target and giving you another night. I also tried to drop hints left and right for Julie an NC Kev etc, but I guess that didnt work.

TomJoe · #**699** 08-16-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Leesifer

WTF! All I can say is that capp is correct in his investigation of me, so I have to believe capp is the cop.

Bullshit, liar.

balluga · #**700** 08-16-2006, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TomJoe

Well then, you're dead tonight. No way is the mob going to let you live, on the chance you finger one of them.

Coming out as the cop now is stupid. You do it to avoid the lynch, so that night the doc can protect you. Problem is, our doc is dead. You won't get a chance at a second look now because you outed yourself.

I assume our real cop would have figured that out. You sir, are no cop. You are most definitely mob now.

This was his first tell that he was cop. He did everything except erect a flashing neon sign reading "I am the Cop". Well, we no know a few mafia to get over the next few days.