A Revolution in Thought: Part Two

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You think you have all the answers Spacemonkey. You haven't even studied this work yet you think you have found flaws that don't actually exist. I'm absolutely dumbfounded by your arrogance.

Liar.

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Why are you starting the same bullshit all over again?

Why are you?


YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL AND SHOULD BE SEEKING PROFESSIONAL HELP.

[LadyShea]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

This knowledge is being unfairly criticized

All criticisms have been fair and valid. You can't effectively answer the questions nor address the criticisms is the problem.

[naturalist.atheist]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

This knowledge is being unfairly criticized, especially when no one has studied the principles or even knows what the actual discovery is.

If that is what you think then the only person you can blame is yourself. Because after all this time you have completely failed to communicate that supposed "actual discovery". If you honestly think there is something valid to be communicated you should consider leaving it to someone else. And you shouldn't spend another penny or moment on it because the net result is the hole of ridicule you are digging just gets deeper. You are not only getting nowhere, but people are afraid for your mental health.

[Angakuk]

Originally Posted by thedoc

Have you read the books by David Gregory, 'The Perfect Stranger' and 'Another Perfect Stranger'?

Have not read them.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by Angakuk

Have not read them.

I would definately recomend the movies, but I haven't read the books. Interesting take on religion.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

Liar.

Why are you?


YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL AND SHOULD BE SEEKING PROFESSIONAL HELP.

Spacemonkey, you sound exactly like a puppet. I don't know what happened to you but there's no point in continuing to converse.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by naturalist.atheist

If that is what you think then the only person you can blame is yourself. Because after all this time you have completely failed to communicate that supposed "actual discovery". If you honestly think there is something valid to be communicated you should consider leaving it to someone else. And you shouldn't spend another penny or moment on it because the net result is the hole of ridicule you are digging just gets deeper. You are not only getting nowhere, but people are afraid for your mental health.

No, it's not going to get deeper into a hole because I'm not interested in being the subject of ridicule for reasons that have nothing to do with me.

[naturalist.atheist]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

No, it's not going to get deeper into a hole because I'm not interested in being the subject of ridicule for reasons that have nothing to do with me.

It's responses like this that make people think that you are suffering from mental illness. Your basic reasoning ability is just not working. Your very own experience seem to be unavailable to you. It's as if you have no ability to remember what has happened here. And this is a forum so you can just reread the whole thing from scratch if you can't remember. You don't have to rely on your own memory. And yet you just do not learn from it. You have people very worried for your sanity. You really do need to put all this down and get help.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by naturalist.atheist

It's responses like this that make people think that you are suffering from mental illness. Your basic reasoning ability is just not working. Your very own experience seem to be unavailable to you. It's as if you have no ability to remember what has happened here. And this is a forum so you can just reread the whole thing from scratch if you can't remember. You don't have to rely on your own memory. And yet you just do not learn from it. You have people very worried for your sanity. You really do need to put all this down and get help.

You can't stop, can you? You're one of the reasons I can't stomach this forum anymore. It's ashame. This forum in the name of free speech has allowed people like you to be extremely rude and ruin it for everyone else.

[davidm]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You can't stop, can you? You're one of the reasons I can't stomach this forum anymore. It's ashame. This forum in the name of free speech has allowed people like you to be extremely rude and ruin it for everyone else.

No, no, no, Lady Shea ruined it for everyone else, remember?

[naturalist.atheist]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You can't stop, can you? You're one of the reasons I can't stomach this forum anymore. It's ashame. This forum in the name of free speech has allowed people like you to be extremely rude and ruin it for everyone else.

I'm sorry I have a working memory and fully aware of your history here. But apparently you live in the eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. And it shocks you when people remember to you the train wreck that has been your presentation of Lessan's "discoveries". Your eternally spotless mind lets you believe irrationally that you can convince people of something that long ago was rejected by everyone. Your spotless mind doesn't remember any of this. So it shocks you when people state the obvious.

You are crazy peacegirl, get help.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by naturalist.atheist

I'm sorry I have a working memory and fully aware of your history here. But apparently you live in the eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. And it shocks you when people remember to you the train wreck that has been your presentation of Lessan's "discoveries". Your eternally spotless mind lets you believe irrationally that you can convince people of something that long ago was rejected by everyone. Your spotless mind doesn't remember any of this. So it shocks you when people state the obvious.

You are crazy peacegirl, get help.

It seems to be just another aspect of Peacegirls 'Willful Ignorance' that she is unwilling to learn about the real world, physics, optics, and other subjects, but now she intentionally ignores her own posts and those of others who have tried to help her. That she is totally out of touch with reality is, by now, painfully obvious to anyone with at least a half a working brain, but Peacegirl seems to be completely oblivious to any of this. It would be hoped that Spacemonkey was actually able to contact any of her relatives to intervene, but we have only the posts to go by. It's sad to see anyone so obviously irrational, but a grandmother is especially sad as it takes her away from real meaningful contact with those grandchildren, perhaps they have other grandparents who can provide the support those young children really need. Some of my own grandchildren have as many as 7 grandparents to look to, but some have only 2 that they can count on.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Spacemonkey, you sound exactly like a puppet. I don't know what happened to you but there's no point in continuing to converse.

Why...

Are...

You...

Posting?


YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL AND SHOULD BE SEEKING PROFESSIONAL HELP.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by LadyShea

All criticisms have been fair and valid. You can't effectively answer the questions nor address the criticisms is the problem.

The criticisms have not been fair and they certainly haven't been valid. You have not grasped why efferent vision allows for real time seeing because you haven't even begun to understand how efferent sight works. That's why you and Spacemonkey keep talking about light having to reach us, which takes time, before we can see what exists. You are going right back to the afferent model without realizing it. That's why you believe this would violate the laws of physics, which it doesn't.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by thedoc

It seems to be just another aspect of Peacegirls 'Willful Ignorance' that she is unwilling to learn about the real world, physics, optics, and other subjects, but now she intentionally ignores her own posts and those of others who have tried to help her. That she is totally out of touch with reality is, by now, painfully obvious to anyone with at least a half a working brain, but Peacegirl seems to be completely oblivious to any of this. It would be hoped that Spacemonkey was actually able to contact any of her relatives to intervene, but we have only the posts to go by. It's sad to see anyone so obviously irrational, but a grandmother is especially sad as it takes her away from real meaningful contact with those grandchildren, perhaps they have other grandparents who can provide the support those young children really need. Some of my own grandchildren have as many as 7 grandparents to look to, but some have only 2 that they can count on.

My grandchildren love me and I love them! Once again, you are in a made up fantasy world when it comes to anything about me. Whether I post again or not, you're going back on IGNORE.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

The criticisms have not been fair and they certainly haven't been valid. You have not grasped why efferent vision allows for real time seeing because you haven't even begun to understand how efferent sight works. That's why you and Spacemonkey keep talking about light having to reach us, which takes time, before we can see what exists. You are going right back to the afferent model without realizing it. That's why you believe this would violate the laws of physics, which it doesn't.

If you keep posting stupid shit like this then people are going to start posting the evidence against you again and asking you to address the questions which you've spent thousands of posts avoiding. You'll be back to having to defend your and Lessans' absurd claims again, which is exactly what you said you WERE NOT coming back to do. So which is it? Are you prepared to defend these claims against objections or not?


YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL AND SHOULD BE SEEKING PROFESSIONAL HELP.

[LadyShea]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

The criticisms have not been fair and they certainly haven't been valid

Sure they have, unless you are redefining the words fair and valid.

You have not grasped why efferent vision allows for real time seeing because you haven't even begun to understand how efferent sight works.

You have been unable to demonstrate that real time seeing is possible within the known laws of physics, and have offered no working model of how efferent sight works, nor can you explain multiple examples of seen things (like Hubble pics) with any kind of scientific basis. You can't explain why a brain is needed to look out when a camera can do the exact same thing. You simply assert "efferent sight" as if that is an explanation of "how". It is not.

[thedoc]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Whether I post again or not, you're going back on IGNORE.

Just like all the evidence against your fathers claims, all the objections that you can't answer, what you don't like or can't answer you Ignore. You can ignore it all you want but the truth lives and you can't change it.

[LadyShea]

You'll be back to having to defend your and Lessans' absurd claims again, which is exactly what you said you WERE NOT coming back to do. So which is it? Are you prepared to defend these claims against objections or not?

I am interested in your answer to this as well.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by naturalist.atheist

If that is what you think then the only person you can blame is yourself. Because after all this time you have completely failed to communicate that supposed "actual discovery". If you honestly think there is something valid to be communicated you should consider leaving it to someone else. And you shouldn't spend another penny or moment on it because the net result is the hole of ridicule you are digging just gets deeper. You are not only getting nowhere, but people are afraid for your mental health.

You are in no position to judge me NA. There is something terribly wrong with this picture. Another one that must be put on ignore for me to keep my sanity. Goodbye.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by LadyShea

I am interested in your answer to this as well.

There is nothing more I can say that will change anything at this point. I am hoping that people will, at the very least, understand the plausibility of this concept. I doubt that they will even accept that. It is going to be up to science to take the lead and do more empirical testing, if they choose to. I am offering something that I believe is true, and all of the put downs won't change a thing IF Lessans was right. I am wasting a lot of time here. I hope I leave you with a suspicion that he could be right. If not, oh well. That was my goal, and I achieved it.

[Vivisectus]

There is nothing more I can say that will change anything except to CLAIM that this model is more than plausible

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by davidm

No, no, no, Lady Shea ruined it for everyone else, remember?

You got me there.

[naturalist.atheist]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

You are in no position to judge me NA. There is something terribly wrong with this picture. Another one that must be put on ignore for me to keep my sanity. Goodbye.

Your disconnect from this very forum and your prolific posts on this and other forums places me and everyone else who has followed them in a perfect position to judge. Add to that your intention to have people judge both you and Lessans and we have yet another great example of your severe disconnect from reality. If you do not like the results of judgment then give up this silly quest and get help.

Otherwise stop complaining about the hell of your own making.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

If you keep posting stupid shit like this then people are going to start posting the evidence against you again and asking you to address the questions which you've spent thousands of posts avoiding. You'll be back to having to defend your and Lessans' absurd claims again, which is exactly what you said you WERE NOT coming back to do. So which is it? Are you prepared to defend these claims against objections or not?


YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL AND SHOULD BE SEEKING PROFESSIONAL HELP.

Not to you. I have no desire to explain anything to you. You need professional help, not me.