Transformers Mafia - Game Thread - Page 36

Crumb · #**876** 03-12-2010, 06:43 PM

Adam since you have already outed yourself as a special, there is no reason not to release the name of the person you spied on. So let us have it. :whup:

livius drusus · #**877** 03-12-2010, 06:43 PM

Delicious.

Ensign Steve · #**878** 03-12-2010, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kael

Hide comes before Investigate, so if hiding overrides my investigating then the actual person who did nothing was whomever slim hid behind. In this scenario, Adam is lying and attempting to blame slim, perhaps because he himself is the shooter and knows only that his target, livius, survived.

How is Adam lying in this scenario? I'm not following.

livius drusus · #**879** 03-12-2010, 06:44 PM

Crumb, you need to catch up before you post. The glorious Adam-slim minuet has resulted in your being hung up to dry.

Ensign Steve · #**880** 03-12-2010, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ensign Steve

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kael

Hide comes before Investigate, so if hiding overrides my investigating then the actual person who did nothing was whomever slim hid behind. In this scenario, Adam is lying and attempting to blame slim, perhaps because he himself is the shooter and knows only that his target, livius, survived.

How is Adam lying in this scenario? I'm not following.

Never mind! I geddit. :dunce:

beyelzu · #**881** 03-12-2010, 06:46 PM

holy role claiming motherfuckers.

jesus.

Crumb · #**882** 03-12-2010, 06:47 PM

Oops I need to refresh before posting.

vote: slim I know someone is lying here.

Adam · #**883** 03-12-2010, 06:47 PM

I already said why I didn't come out with the info earlier. I didn't want to potentially out a town vig, so I held off in favor of pressing liv a bit to see how she'd respond. If she turned out looking suspicious, that would throw my read of slim in a different light.

To tell the truth, I still do find her early Day 2 actions a bit suspicious, but Crumb's moreso. I would bet money on one of them being our garbage collector/graverobber/whatever.

I'm disinclined to believe slim's defense because:

1) Why not just say he hid behind Crumb instead of calling me a liar? I mean, as far as anyone but me knows, I am a liar, but if he already knew that any read on him would be false, why jump to accusations?

2) Ironhide as a hider is a weird claim. It sounds like someone who doesn't know Transformers needed a name to attach to a phony hider claim and pulled one out of the wiki or from the movie or something.

3) I'm giving Crumb at least 50/50 odds of being the garbage picker, which means he would have been too busy to shoot at liv last night. The rest of you should probably ignore my gut feelings about this, though.

Kael · #**884** 03-12-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by livius drusus

Crumb, you need to catch up before you post. The glorious Adam-slim minuet has resulted in your being hung up to dry.

The only reason to think Crumb is caught here is if I am lying and Adam is not, or if my investigate is not fooled by slimshady's hiding and Adam's is.

I must admit this last possibility only just occurred to me. It seems needlessly complicated, though, so I'm not going to unvote yet.

Crumb · #**885** 03-12-2010, 06:49 PM

I don't want to throw another role claim on the pile, but I have no ability to kill anyone. So either slim or Adam is lying. Slim lying seems much more likely.

Kael · #**886** 03-12-2010, 06:49 PM

Did anyone even see my post?

slimshady2357 · #**887** 03-12-2010, 06:50 PM

Ok, Kael you say you also viewed me last night. Now, my hiding definitely says that you should have viewed Crumb instead.

So if you saw nothing, then perhaps Crumb isn't scum unvote.

This certainly is getting interesting

It basically says to me that either Kael or Adam is lying. Since I know all I did was hide last night, it must be Adam that is lying.

Why you chose to do this Adam, I have no idea. But you must be scum as far as I can see.

vote Adam

Adam · #**888** 03-12-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

I already said why I didn't come out with the info earlier. I didn't want to potentially out a town vig, so I held off in favor of pressing liv a bit to see how she'd respond. If she turned out looking suspicious, that would throw my read of slim in a different light.

To tell the truth, I still do find her early Day 2 actions a bit suspicious, but Crumb's moreso. I would bet money on one of them being our garbage collector/graverobber/whatever.

I'm disinclined to believe slim's defense because:

1) Why not just say he hid behind Crumb instead of calling me a liar? I mean, as far as anyone but me knows, I am a liar, but if he already knew that any read on him would be false, why jump to accusations?

2) Ironhide as a hider is a weird claim. It sounds like someone who doesn't know Transformers needed a name to attach to a phony hider claim and pulled one out of the wiki or from the movie or something.

3) I'm giving Crumb at least 50/50 odds of being the garbage picker, which means he would have been too busy to shoot at liv last night. The rest of you should probably ignore my gut feelings about this, though.

Dam xposts, this is in response to JA.

slimshady2357 · #**889** 03-12-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

2) Ironhide as a hider is a weird claim. It sounds like someone who doesn't know Transformers needed a name to attach to a phony hider claim and pulled one out of the wiki or from the movie or something.

My name and role came from Megatron douche, so you're grasping at straws here at best.

Crumb · #**890** 03-12-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kael

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Originally Posted by livius drusus

Crumb, you need to catch up before you post. The glorious Adam-slim minuet has resulted in your being hung up to dry.

The only reason to think Crumb is caught here is if I am lying and Adam is not, or if my investigate is not fooled by slimshady's hiding and Adam's is.

I must admit this last possibility only just occurred to me. It seems needlessly complicated, though, so I'm not going to unvote yet.

Your investigate? :chin:

Did I miss another role claim? :eek:

Ensign Steve · #**891** 03-12-2010, 06:53 PM

Wow, Kael, apparently your post was invisible! I thought you were just being paranoid.

Well, I saw it anyway. Even quoted it. Twice.

Crumb · #**892** 03-12-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by slimshady2357

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam

2) Ironhide as a hider is a weird claim. It sounds like someone who doesn't know Transformers needed a name to attach to a phony hider claim and pulled one out of the wiki or from the movie or something.

My name and role came from Megatron douche, so you're grasping at straws here at best.

But did he give it to you as cover or as your role?

beyelzu · #**893** 03-12-2010, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam

I already said why I didn't come out with the info earlier. I didn't want to potentially out a town vig, so I held off in favor of pressing liv a bit to see how she'd respond. If she turned out looking suspicious, that would throw my read of slim in a different light.

To tell the truth, I still do find her early Day 2 actions a bit suspicious, but Crumb's moreso. I would bet money on one of them being our garbage collector/graverobber/whatever.

I'm disinclined to believe slim's defense because:

1) Why not just say he hid behind Crumb instead of calling me a liar? I mean, as far as anyone but me knows, I am a liar, but if he already knew that any read on him would be false, why jump to accusations?

2) Ironhide as a hider is a weird claim. It sounds like someone who doesn't know Transformers needed a name to attach to a phony hider claim and pulled one out of the wiki or from the movie or something.

3) I'm giving Crumb at least 50/50 odds of being the garbage picker, which means he would have been too busy to shoot at liv last night. The rest of you should probably ignore my gut feelings about this, though.

Your waiting doesn't bother me so much, if you have extra information you probe people to see what they have to say because they dont have the same info and they certainly dont know you know.

the ironhide thing certainly doesnt make since.

vote slimshady

Kael · #**894** 03-12-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ensign Steve

Wow, Kael, apparently your post was invisible! I thought you were just being paranoid.

Well, I saw it anyway. Even quoted it. Twice.

Yes, I know. It was a bit of exasperation at all the cross-posting, is all.

Crumb · #**895** 03-12-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kael

Ok, so Adam claims he saw slimshady shoot at someone, slimshady claims he hid behind another bot and they are the shooter.

Not to complicate things or anything like that, but I also (or was the only one who really did, more likely) observed slimshady last night and was told

Quote:

slimshady performed no night action.
no night action was performed on him.

Now, according to order of actions:
1. Disrupt
2. Block
3. Avoid
4. Hide
5. Protect
6. Kill
7. Recruit
8. Collect
9. Investigate
10. Disassemble

Hide comes before Investigate, so if hiding overrides my investigating then the actual person who did nothing was whomever slim hid behind. In this scenario, Adam is lying and attempting to blame slim, perhaps because he himself is the shooter and knows only that his target, livius, survived.

If slim's hiding does not override my investigation then either slim is lying and does not have the ability to hide, or I just don't get to know he hid and still observe any other actions done by/to him. In this scenario, Adam is also lying and attempting to blame slim for the shooting.

Either way, Adam is lying, and the most likely reason I can see is that he himself was the shooter and wants to use the fact that livius survived an attack to get someone lynched.

vote: Adam

Ok this is great, but you aren't supposed to directly quote the moderator.

Adam · #**896** 03-12-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Crumb

Ok this is great, but you aren't supposed to directly quote the moderator.

Trying to get people modkilled is a scum tell.

beyelzu · #**897** 03-12-2010, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kael

Ok, so Adam claims he saw slimshady shoot at someone, slimshady claims he hid behind another bot and they are the shooter.

Not to complicate things or anything like that, but I also (or was the only one who really did, more likely) observed slimshady last night and was told

Quote:

slimshady performed no night action.
no night action was performed on him.

Now, according to order of actions:
1. Disrupt
2. Block
3. Avoid
4. Hide
5. Protect
6. Kill
7. Recruit
8. Collect
9. Investigate
10. Disassemble

Hide comes before Investigate, so if hiding overrides my investigating then the actual person who did nothing was whomever slim hid behind. In this scenario, Adam is lying and attempting to blame slim, perhaps because he himself is the shooter and knows only that his target, livius, survived.

If slim's hiding does not override my investigation then either slim is lying and does not have the ability to hide, or I just don't get to know he hid and still observe any other actions done by/to him. In this scenario, Adam is also lying and attempting to blame slim for the shooting.

Either way, Adam is lying, and the most likely reason I can see is that he himself was the shooter and wants to use the fact that livius survived an attack to get someone lynched.

vote: Adam

alright kael lets talk.

Why would adam do it? why not just kill liv again tonight, after all typically docs can't protect 2 nights in a row. It would be a balsy lie.

so you can follow people at night correct? why did you pick slim?