Is it OK to punch a Nazi in the head?

[Ari]

I so want to know what the 10 core elements of Naziism is according to Jerome.

[Watser?]

Oh, hey.

Do you know who coined the word 'privatisation'? (PDF alert)

Privatisation and the Nazis

Privatisation and Nazis II

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Ari

I so want to know what the 10 core elements of Naziism is according to Jerome.

Inheritance tax
Confiscation of war profits
Proft sharing
Old age welfare
Low cost housing
Lands for public use
Government education
Government higher education
National health care
Promote the common good
Central government

They laid it all out in their platform.

[Ari]

These Nazis sound like cool cats. Are these all of their core beliefs?

[Jerome]

Those are all in their party platform, yes.

Those are the ideas that made their country great again.

Those all happen to be core values of western liberals, curiously...

[Watser?]

Well, then let's see the platform, if you are so sure about all that.

Because I remember a lot of stuff about Kinder, Küche, Kirche. Which makes a nice KKK too, I wonder if the Führer knew?

[The Man]

For the record, while I only actively endorse punching genocide-endorsing Nazis, I don't think I'd be terribly bothered if someone punched Jerome in the head, either.

[Ari]

Originally Posted by Jerome

Inheritance tax
Confiscation of war profits
Proft sharing
Old age welfare
Low cost housing
Lands for public use
Government education
Government higher education
National health care
Promote the common good
Central government

They laid it all out in their platform.

The nazi's laid out these specific points?

[Jerome]

They sure did, a socialist dream nation.

[Watser?]

Prove it.

[Jerome]

goggle.com

nazi platform

[Ari]

Originally Posted by Jerome

They sure did, a socialist dream nation.

Cool.
So, yeah, these points happen to be direct quotes from totally not a nazi but instead catholic monarchist Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn when giving his unshared opinion of naziism as extreme liberalism, with of course religious monarchy being his idea of proper conservatism.

(I did, that's where I found the wikipedia page you may have copied that from plus its real source. The real nazi program was a 25 point plan.)

[Jerome]

Are you saying those ten ideas I posted are not a delineated part of the Nazi party platform?

[Jerome]

Inheritance tax
Confiscation of war profits
Proft sharing
Old age welfare
Low cost housing
Lands for public use
Government education
Government higher education
National health care
Promote the common good
Central government

Play find the socialist dream nation!



Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).

We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.

We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.

We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.

We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the State must be striven for by the school [Staatsbürgerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the State of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.

The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.

For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.

[Ari]

Im saying the nazi platform was never only 10 items to begin with and certainly not so condensed.
Like really 'central government' as one point, omg everyone is nazi!!

I do like your revisionist style! You leave out all the bad stuff and suddenly nazis seem reasonable.

[Jerome]

Got it, so you do agree with the Nazi party and the majority of its socialist tenets, its just the race based aspects you don't like.

[Ari]

Considering these socialist wonders were only available to select people, that seems like a pretty big exception. But sure lets pretend the nazis believed in a well rounded education system which highlighted the achievement of other cultures and worked hard to keep trailing students up to task.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Ari

Considering these socialist wonders were only available to select people, that seems like a pretty big exception.

Its interesting to note that the European countries typically held up as the socialist model are homogeneous.

[Dragar]

It's a little known fact that Britain only entered the war due to ideological differences: it could never stand a policy of 'old age welfare' on the continent.

[JoeP]

There are times when I appreciate the ignore function on . And there are times when Jerome doesn't post.

[The Man]

Relevant:

Would Captain America Approve of Punching Nazis? (YES) - Lawyers, Guns & Money

I'm going to reiterate my opinion that any system of ethics that doesn't take into account what Captain America would do is deficient. Which is also why these recent comics are so problematic.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by Dragar

It's a little known fact that Britain only entered the war due to ideological differences: it could never stand a policy of 'old age welfare' on the continent.

[Kyuss Apollo]

Originally Posted by Jerome

Inheritance tax
Confiscation of war profits
Proft sharing
Old age welfare
Low cost housing
Lands for public use
Government education
Government higher education
National health care
Promote the common good
Central government

They laid it all out in their platform.

ROFL, this is exactly what I said they did -- the Nazi's said whatevs to whoevs in order to get elected.

Thanks for the list, shithead.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by The Man

I'm going to reiterate my opinion that any system of ethics that doesn't take into account what Captain America would do is deficient.

He started an armed insurrection against the US government.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Kyuss Apollo

ROFL, this is exactly what I said they did -- the Nazi's said whatevs to whoevs in order to get elected.

No, they did do those things. Nazi Germany was held up in the west as a socialist paradise until the Poland thing.