Transformers Mafia - Game Thread - Page 63

beyelzu · #**1551** 03-19-2010, 05:25 PM

ahh that would make more sense

Contrapposto · #**1552** 03-19-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

What did you say you did on Nights 1 and 2, Contra?

Night 1 - protect/block self
Night 2 - could not take action because I blocked myself on night 1
Night 3 - protect/block Adam

beyelzu · #**1553** 03-19-2010, 05:30 PM

you realize adam that you could have cleared ja last night right?

deadloked was suppose to view crumb anyway. so if he really does have a view power i would be helpful.

when do yall think gonzo will be on? I am curious as to what he saw as well.

Contrapposto · #**1554** 03-19-2010, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Contrapposto

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Originally Posted by Adam

What did you say you did on Nights 1 and 2, Contra?

Night 1 - protect/block self
Night 2 - could not take action because I blocked myself on night 1
Night 3 - protect/block Adam

When under a forcefield no one can hurt the target plus the target can not act...It's a help / hinderance thing which is the challenge with it.

Adam · #**1555** 03-19-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by beyelzu

you realize adam that you could have cleared ja last night right?

deadloked was suppose to view crumb anyway. so if he really does have a view power i would be helpful.

when do yall think gonzo will be on? I am curious as to what he saw as well.

I also could have cleared Crumb, and I was more worried about him. Maybe Gonzo will have viewed JA.

Contrapposto · #**1556** 03-19-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

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Originally Posted by beyelzu

you realize adam that you could have cleared ja last night right?

deadloked was suppose to view crumb anyway. so if he really does have a view power i would be helpful.

when do yall think gonzo will be on? I am curious as to what he saw as well.

I also could have cleared Crumb, and I was more worried about him. Maybe Gonzo will have viewed JA.

Either one of us for that matter...

Adam · #**1557** 03-19-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Contrapposto

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Originally Posted by Adam

What did you say you did on Nights 1 and 2, Contra?

Night 1 - protect/block self
Night 2 - could not take action because I blocked myself on night 1
Night 3 - protect/block Adam

So, I have a theory going where you actually blocked Kael on Night 1, accounting for his Night 1 result being similar to my Night 3 result, and also why Gonzo did not see him act on Night 1.

beyelzu · #**1558** 03-19-2010, 05:38 PM

what do you think he did on night 2?

that would make sense, someone is doing the blocking. and mega would have given one hell of a safe claim to the decepticon role blocker.

Contrapposto · #**1559** 03-19-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by beyelzu

what do you think he did on night 2?

that would make sense, someone is doing the blocking. and mega would have given one hell of a safe claim to the decepticon role blocker.

Are you trying to lose this game single-handedly for us bey?

Obviously Megs would impose a penalty (losing all action night 2) should I decide to use the ability on myself because the result would be guaranteed successful.

I have already explained the reasons for my actions in detail. Also, I think I had legitimate reason to target Adam as nobody has given a proper explaination for his story.

Ensign Steve · #**1560** 03-19-2010, 05:52 PM

Are you kidding? Adam's story has got about a million facets, any thousand of which could be easily counter-claimed if they were untrue. We've watched the "story" unfold over several days through cardflips and late reveals, and everything still fits in with the original shit he told us.

beyelzu · #**1561** 03-19-2010, 05:53 PM

Yeah, I am trying to lose the game for us, cuz I am such a shitty player.

Chill man, you discuss all the options, and figure stuff out.

also, did you the review my scenarios that I posted? and do you understand that you were wrong, that my plan wasn't stupid?

just checking.

beyelzu · #**1562** 03-19-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by beyelzu

Yeah, I am trying to lose the game for us, cuz I am such a shitty player.

Chill man, you discuss all the options, and figure stuff out.

also, did you the review my scenarios that I posted? and do you understand that you were wrong, that my plan wasn't stupid?

just checking.

to contra

beyelzu · #**1563** 03-19-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Contrapposto

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Originally Posted by beyelzu

what do you think he did on night 2?

that would make sense, someone is doing the blocking. and mega would have given one hell of a safe claim to the decepticon role blocker.

Are you trying to lose this game single-handedly for us bey?

Obviously Megs would impose a penalty (losing all action night 2) should I decide to use the ability on myself because the result would be guaranteed successful.

why is this obvious? ja doesn't even claim to be able to block himself and the wrinkle is at least as convenient as adam's grenade.

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I have already explained the reasons for my actions in detail. Also, I think I had legitimate reason to target Adam as nobody has given a proper explaination for his story.

Well lets go over it again, why do yourself on night one?

Megatron · #**1564** 03-19-2010, 05:58 PM

Vote count: @scum.indykill Edition

1. Deadlokd
2. Adam
3. Contrapposto -1 (Ensign Steve)
4. Joshua Adams
5. Gonzo
6. Ensign Steve
7. beyelzu

Not voting: Deadlokd, Adam, Contrapposto, Joshua Adams, Gonzo, beyelzu

4 to lynch.

Adam · #**1565** 03-19-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by beyelzu

what do you think he did on night 2?

that would make sense, someone is doing the blocking. and mega would have given one hell of a safe claim to the decepticon role blocker.

I have no idea. It's possible that he can't use it two nights in a row for some reason, or it's possible that he blocked someone (you or ES maybe) who would not have been using a night action anyway.

Adam · #**1566** 03-19-2010, 06:03 PM

Also, I suppose it's also a possibility that Contra really did attempt to blocktect himself on Night 1, but a scum ninja swapped him and Kael. That also accounts for the reported facts, but it raises the question of why the fuck Contra and Kael?

Adam · #**1567** 03-19-2010, 06:03 PM

ETA meaning I think the ninja scenario is unlikely.

Contrapposto · #**1568** 03-19-2010, 06:03 PM

I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you bey. We are just going to have to agree to dissagree as the old southern adage goes.

Just look at the role claims that seem unbalanced or implausible.
Also consider the doubling up or extreme similarity of some roles.

Additionally, why would I come out and say I blocked Adam, after a nightkill happened, if I were scum?

Adam · #**1569** 03-19-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Contrapposto

Additionally, why would I come out and say I blocked Adam, after a nightkill happened, if I were scum?

Why wouldn't you? You have to say that you blocked someone, and I had already said I got no result, making me a safe claim.

Contrapposto · #**1570** 03-19-2010, 06:07 PM

I said in my actual role claim that I protected myself because I didn't trust anyone at that point. If lees had been scum, and not a third faction, I would have protected her most likely.

Contrapposto · #**1571** 03-19-2010, 06:09 PM

My role leaves no room for error and can throw suspicion on me should I use it incorrectly or make the wrong choices. Does JA's?

beyelzu · #**1572** 03-19-2010, 06:15 PM

okay, I will attempt to use softer language.

I have posted why what we did yesterday was a good idea and why it worked. You have said that we are stupid for doing it. How?

beyelzu · #**1573** 03-19-2010, 06:18 PM

fwiw, ja isn't cleared in my opinion, but i felt if I asked for his protection I would live, cuz if he was lying he would have had to not kill me anyway. I am confused by Adam's move last night and I do find his lack of views convenient if he were scum. However I think if he were lying he could do better.

Adam · #**1574** 03-19-2010, 06:21 PM

I don';t understand why you're confused by my move, bey. I mean, I understand why you might have wanted me to try and clear JA or Contra, but I'm not sure why you think that checking Crumb was a bad idea. If he was lying (and he was lying, at least about his allegiance), then he could easily have fucked us over in very short order with our numbers this low. I thought making sure of him was more important than clearing someone else.

beyelzu · #**1575** 03-19-2010, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

I don';t understand why you're confused by my move, bey. I mean, I understand why you might have wanted me to try and clear JA or Contra, but I'm not sure why you think that checking Crumb was a bad idea. If he was lying (and he was lying, at least about his allegiance), then he could easily have fucked us over in very short order with our numbers this low. I thought making sure of him was more important than clearing someone else.

I am not confused by it exactly as much as it is very convenient, and there were good targets.

In support of your current claims, I think you would make up better lies than this. you wouldn't have added the flash grenade wrinkle when kael already didn't see something. You would probably be more cleared in my head if I wasn't worried about the dual scum gambit that liv championed.

for now, I am most suspicous of contra but thats cuz of how dense he is playing.