Go Back   Freethought Forum > The Public Baths > Lifestyle

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #251  
Old 06-01-2021, 07:30 PM
lisarea's Avatar
lisarea lisarea is offline
Solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: XVMMMCXCVI
Blog Entries: 1
Images: 3
Default Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization

I DID eventually find it myself by speeding it up and skipping around, so thanks for murdering me!

That was mostly good, except that little bit at the beginning about Kevin Kelly. I'll admit I haven't read that book, but I have read a lot of his other stuff, and I can pretty much guarantee that that is an inappropriately literal and overly dismissive take. He denies it, but Kelly is actually fairly Luddish himself, despite his general tech utopianism, and when he talks about technologies, he's usually talking about general underlying technologies rather than specific implementations.

I have no doubt there's plenty to criticize, but I also have no doubt that his position is far more nuanced than what they're claiming.

The Luddites were not ignorant about or afraid of technology. If anything, they were probably the most technically adept with it. It's the exploitation they were fighting, not the tech. And that's just as relevant now, if not more.

The current situation goes back to how the technology adoption curve has been turned on its head. Just a couple decades ago, early adopters were mostly people who understood the technology they were adopting, so exploitative tech would be roundly mocked and pretty quickly fail; whereas now it seems like most early adopters are technically inept and willing to adopt things uncritically, so they're the ones driving demand now. And the "Luddites" are often people who understand the technology well enough to see the downsides of subscription models and software as a service and corporate surveillance. But none of the underlying technologies are bad in themselves. It's the implementation that's the problem.
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Ari (06-01-2021), But (06-02-2021), Crumb (06-02-2021), Ensign Steve (06-08-2021), Kamilah Hauptmann (06-01-2021), mickthinks (06-01-2021), Sock Puppet (06-01-2021), viscousmemories (06-02-2021)
  #252  
Old 06-01-2021, 10:55 PM
Ari's Avatar
Ari Ari is online now
I read some of your foolish scree, then just skimmed the rest.
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bay Area
Gender: Male
Posts: XCDLXVII
Blog Entries: 8
Default Re: Privacy, Anonymity, and Compartmentalization

Quote:
Originally Posted by Interview
“You never buy the software, you’re always leasing it”
This reminds me of something that could go in the capitalist dystopia thread.

Cricut now requires subscription to fully use device.
Cricut is limiting the use of its crafting machines with a monthly subscription - The Verge

The short, designs made in other programs need to be translated into proprietary CriCut code, this is done by a cloud based app that you upload too, and then download a Cricut file, with optional access to premade files requiring a subscription. Now CriCut has decided to limit the ‘free’ required app to 20 uploads a month or less without a subscription. As far as I can tell there’s no reason the app needs to be online at all, nothing that needs intensive cloud processing or large amounts of storage.

Since the announcement, outcry has led to them grandfathering in older machines, but the pay a subscription to uncripple their software is their model going forward.

I presume the future is going to be filled with piles of fully functional devices that refuses to turn on because the server they check into has long since been scrapped if it doesn’t just redirect to malware.
Reply With Quote
Thanks, from:
Crumb (06-02-2021), Ensign Steve (06-08-2021), JoeP (06-01-2021), Kamilah Hauptmann (06-01-2021), lisarea (06-01-2021), Sock Puppet (06-01-2021), viscousmemories (06-02-2021)
Reply

  Freethought Forum > The Public Baths > Lifestyle


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

 

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Page generated in 0.13550 seconds with 16 queries