Commemorative or not, had consumers not spoken with their pocketbooks on this, it would have only been a matter of time before Caitlyn Jenner graced the faces of coke cans, Mulvaney all over every piss beer can in the universe, and Rachel Levin on Wheaties boxes. That’s the purpose of a boycott. I don’t think there is any right or wrong to it. I think companies after this will think twice before doing something similar though. Target is also facing bottom line problems at the moment due to their ‘tuck it behind your pecker’ apparel.
The woke don't want people to have a choice.
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The way white liberals co-opted "stay woke" for themselves, is quite remarkable.
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Can you name a single "white liberal" person who actually uses that phrase? Seems like all forms of "woke" have been co-opted by racist white conservatives.
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by Dimitra Kessenides and Max Chafkin
December 22, 2016 at 4:30 AM EST
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While attending a conference for African Wikipedia editors in Johannesburg in 2014, Sengupta, who hadn’t written an article for Wikipedia before, decided to try solving the problem more directly. She opened up her laptop and started pecking out an article about Adeleye-Fayemi, whom she’d met at a handful of women’s-rights conferences. “As a philanthropist, she was very notable,” says Sengupta. Wikipedia rules require that all entries be about “notable” topics and every assertion be backed up by a reliable secondary source. This can be problematic for figures who aren’t well-known in the U.S., but Adeleye-Fayemi had been covered in the Nigerian press, and Sengupta included 11 footnotes in her first draft. She hit publish.
A few minutes later, she glanced at her laptop. The entry had been marked for speedy deletion, which means a Wikipedia editor had judged it to be, essentially, trifling. The only people qualified to remove this designation are the encyclopedia’s administrators—some 1,300 volunteers for the English entries who have the power, and the technical ability, to block users and delete articles.
Sengupta took to the article’s Talk page, a forum of sorts, to make her case for inclusion. She won her appeal, but only after drawing in Florence Devouard, a former chair of the Wikimedia Foundation, who happened to be sitting next to her at the conference.
The experience was sobering for Sengupta, who left the foundation the following year to start Whose Knowledge?, a campaign focused on promoting diversity on the internet. If the only way to get an article about the developing world published on Wikipedia was to know a former board member, it was hard to imagine how a random editor from Johannesburg or Bangalore would have any hope.
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Of course now some woke moron will try to say Dimitra Kessenides and Max Chafkin are racist white conservatives.
lol
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Anything more recent than a 2016 article reporting on events from 2014? Oh, and for bonus points, an unequivocal use of "woke" in a positive manner. By fucking anyone.
ETA - from what I can tell (it paywalled before I could finish reading), the authors are using "woke" the same way you are, disparagingly. Is this how white liberals have coopted the term? That makes no fucking sense.
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Is it still the case that sub-editors usually write headlines rather than the authors? Does that article text use the word "woke" past the paywall?
I think it quite likely that a number of white liberals co-opted "woke", but you'd think people who want to argue that it's common would find clear examples easier to come across.
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Commemorative or not, had consumers not spoken with their pocketbooks on this, it would have only been a matter of time before Caitlyn Jenner graced the faces of coke cans, Mulvaney all over every piss beer can in the universe, and Rachel Levin on Wheaties boxes. That’s the purpose of a boycott. I don’t think there is any right or wrong to it. I think companies after this will think twice before doing something similar though. Target is also facing bottom line problems at the moment due to their ‘tuck it behind your pecker’ apparel.
The woke don't want people to have a choice.
Sure you have a choice--you don't want to buy any "tuck your pecker" apparel, you don't have to fucking BUY any. But by the same token, folks who DO want to buy it appreciate it's being available at a reasonable price.
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"Have no respect whatsoever for authority; forget who said it and instead look what he starts with, where he ends up, and ask yourself, "Is it reasonable?""
Commemorative or not, had consumers not spoken with their pocketbooks on this, it would have only been a matter of time before Caitlyn Jenner graced the faces of coke cans, Mulvaney all over every piss beer can in the universe, and Rachel Levin on Wheaties boxes. That’s the purpose of a boycott. I don’t think there is any right or wrong to it. I think companies after this will think twice before doing something similar though. Target is also facing bottom line problems at the moment due to their ‘tuck it behind your pecker’ apparel.
The woke don't want people to have a choice.
Sure you have a choice--you don't want to buy any "tuck your pecker" apparel, you don't have to fucking BUY any. But by the same token, folks who DO want to buy it appreciate it's being available at a reasonable price.
There is nothing wrong with good old fashioned tape. It even comes in the hypo allergenic type. But again, how people choose to spend their money and where they do so is not up to people who scream bigot at the top of their lungs.
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Amusingly I can answer the Woke question as I can pinpoint the exact moment I knew ‘Woke’ was dead. The 2016 Cartoon Woke Baby by Loryn Brantz using woke to mean awake to the patriarchy, contrasted with its original meaning of not being asleep. While Loryn didn’t kill woke, it was clear that it had entered mainstream culture and was now being used as a dad pun to sell ‘feminist baby’ books, as just another joke.
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"Psychos do not explode when sunlight hits them, I don't give a fuck how crazy they are." ~ S. Gecko
An official at the zoo said: "The man shouted 'God will save me, if he exists', lowered himself by a rope into the enclosure, took his shoes off and went up to the lions." (emphasis added)
If only he left out the highlighted lingo, Jesus might have seen fit to pull that boy's dumb, half-hearted-faith-havin' ass out of there.
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The group here is pretty much white European/American, and like all societies, or humans usually, one considers their mores the standard. Even when your mores change, it is still human nature to be offended, outraged, angry, depressed or disturbed, because that is exactly how one's sense of what is moral works.
When traveling, or relocated to a different society, there is a serious conflict if one does not conform to the new areas mores. Unless you bring your mores with you, and enforce them at gunpoint. This of course has happened a lot in history.
I picked age of consent because it is the least upsetting example.
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African countries have enacted marriageable age laws to limit marriage to a minimum age of 16 to 18, depending on the jurisdiction. In Ethiopia, Chad and Niger, the legal marriage age is 15, but local customs and religious courts have the power to allow marriages below 12 years of age.[128] Child marriages of girls in West Africa, Central Africa and Northeast Africa are widespread.[129] Additionally, poverty, religion, tradition, and conflict make the rate of child marriage in Sub-Saharan Africa very high in some regions.[73][130]
In many traditional systems, a man pays a bride price to the girl's family to marry her (comparable to the customs of dowry and dower). In many parts of Africa, this payment, in cash, cattle, or other valuables, decreases as a girl gets older. Even before a girl reaches puberty, it is common for a married girl to leave her parents to be with her husband. Many marriages are related to poverty, with parents needing the bride price of a daughter to feed, clothe, educate, and house the rest of the family. In Mali, the female: male ratio of marriage before age 18 is 72:1; in Kenya, 21:1.[73]
Incest, cannibalism, beating children, child raping, burning widows alive, chopping off the hand of a thief, mutilation of children (by the parents), murdering gays and lesbians, being whipped by the State, murdered by the state, medical experiments, being shoved into an oven and burned alive, cruel and hideous punishments, the killing of prisoners of war, salting the fields, being crucified, killing any stranger on site, the list goes on and on.
One can't understand with out understanding the mores, and how things change over time.
In general the more advanced a society, the more free a society, especially one like the United States, the better off you are, if your idea of what a society should be differs from yours fellow mans.
In some current societies, you couldn't even be having this discussion. Much less identify as gay, lesbian, bi or trans. Quite simply, you would be murdered. By a mob or by the state or religion of the state.
But int the US (and a few other countries), the argument is over a man showering with little girls.
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The latest HBomberGuy video initially doesn't look like it's about LGBTQ issues, but only 1:50 minutes in, is "The Twist You Expected" and the next 2 hours is about erasure of queer works.
James Somerton is a popular and successful YouTuber that does a lot of queer media analysis. Actually, he plagiarizes other people's lesser known works and passes them off as his own, sometimes with minimal credit. The bulk of his scripts are very slightly edited text taken directly from other sources.
HBomberGuy was able to verify 24/58 of Somerton's currently available videos have some plagiarized work, and that doesn't include videos that were taken down, several of which were know to have plagiarized work.
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