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You're being targeted by disinformation networks.


I can't, obviously, verify every claim in this, but I can at least confirm that the kind of content described is widespread and moderately effective at making people much more hostile and infighty than they used to be.
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IMO the Russian bot programme is primarily there to divide people. Yes, Putin would prefer Trump in charge, but Biden as prez of a deeply divided population is also a great outcome for him. IOW the bots are there to amplify already existing discord. Arguments don't originate from them, they're casually and probably often algorithmically picked from the existing discourse and scattershot to see which ones generate the most conflict. You'll find bots spouting all stripes of bad takes.
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A former federal prosecutor who investigated the Russian disinformation effort summarized it like this:

"It wasn’t exclusively about Trump and Clinton anymore. It was deeper and more sinister and more diffuse in its focus on exploiting divisions within society on any number of different levels."

As the New York Times reported in 2022,

"There was a routine: Arriving for a shift, [Russian disinformation] workers would scan news outlets on the ideological fringes, far left and far right, mining for extreme content that they could publish and amplify on the platforms, feeding extreme views into mainstream conversations."
Cites this paywalled NYT article for the quotes.
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I can't, obviously, verify every claim in this, but I can at least confirm that the kind of content described is widespread and moderately effective at making people much more hostile and infighty than they used to be.
Can you show us on the doll where the content hurt you?
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Russia began using troll farms a decade ago to incite gender and racial divisions in the United States
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Wait, what? So it's not Obama and the leftists who have been doing this shit? Or are they in cahoots with the Russians?

I really need some rando on reddit to explain this shit.

But I will settle for you doing it. Here's the paywalled article with no paywall
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Default Re: You are not immune to propaganda.

Unsurprisingly, fx is super defensive about this topic.
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""Why are you so defensive about this?"


Dude I just gave you the free version of the article you want to discuss. So you can read it.


"I'm not surprised -FX- doesn't want to discuss this"


I asked you to explain it.


"Let us talk past him and pretend he didn't ask anything."


Let me know how that works out for you.
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Are you off your meds?
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Let me know how that works out for you.
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From the NY times article

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The job was not to put forward arguments, but to prompt a visceral, emotional reaction, ideally one of “indignation,” said Mr. Baranov, a psychoanalyst by training, who was assigned to write posts on Russian politics. “The task is to make a kind of explosion, to cause controversy,” he said.

When a post succeeded at enraging a reader, he said, a co-worker would sometimes remark, with satisfaction, Liberala razorvala. A liberal was torn apart. “It wasn’t on the level of discussing facts or giving new arguments,” he said. “It’s always a way of digging into dirty laundry.”
I'm still not sure who the Russians troll farms are attacking?
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“It’s a shame that Linda Sarsour damaged that movement by trying to inject into it noxious ideas that had no reason to be part of the Women’s March,” said Mr. Lancman, the former city councilman. “Unfortunately,” he added, Russians “seem very adept at exploiting these fissures.”
I could say the same thing about home grown American fagtards, who do the exact same thing. They never miss a chance to get a punch in, or try to drag some unrelated shit into every conversation. If they don't like what you are saying.

This russian shit sounds like agitation and trolling, more than any effort to somehow control Americans online. Shitfire man, maybe they are leaving stuff out, because I have seen way worse from actual people that are in no way Russian paid trolls.

They are doing it for free, and they are always online. They run Wikipedia now. They have gutfucked Reddit into a shitpile of shit, and every other platform, except X
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