A Revolution in Thought: Part Two

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

It doesn't matter what you say Stephen[.]

I agree. What matters is that you are craven liar, just like your preposterous fraud of a father.

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

A timer can be started when the laser is fired

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[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

You can't remember much of anything, can you Peacegirl? You've already forgotten again that it was YOU who stated that you don't want to discuss his main topic at all. Just as you've forgotten my previous posts pointing out how batshit crazy it is to criticize others for not discussing something YOU don't even want to discuss. You are mentally ill, Peacegirl.

I don't want to discuss his first discovery with you because you can't get past your one post about presuppositions. It's the biggest joke of all.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

I agree. What matters is that you are craven liar, just like your preposterous fraud of a father.

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And you are the biggest loud mouthed lying lawyer that has ever crossed my path.

[davidm]

Hey, peacegirl, do you know what an atomic clock is?

It is so accurate that it will not gain or lose a second in 20 million years.

And here comes an ass hat like you, telling us that humans can't measure the difference between 1.25 seconds and 2.5 seconds!

[Stephen Maturin]

"Should I be sent to a liar's prison or something?"

~ peacegirl (#574, 09/15/10)

[davidm]

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[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

We agree that you are insane. So if you are still here and posting tomorrow as you are now, will you agree that we are correct in saying that you are insane?

Your little made up stories about me mean absolutely nothing. You don't know me Spacemonkey. To tell you the truth, I have no idea why you're here. Think of all the things you could be doing instead of this.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Stephen Maturin

"Should I be sent to a liar's prison or something?"

~ peacegirl (#574, 09/15/10)

Anywhere but here. Just leave!!!!!!!!!!!

[Stephen Maturin]

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

We agree that you are insane. So if you are still here and posting tomorrow as you are now, will you agree that we are correct in saying that you are insane?

Peacegirl, how many more times do you have to post before your above claim to be leaving becomes a lie, and your continued presence here justifies our questioning of your sanity by your own above admission?

If you are still here tomorrow can we fairly claim that you were lying and are insane? What if you are still here next week, or a month from now?

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by davidm

Hey, peacegirl, do you know what an atomic clock is?

It is so accurate that it will not gain or lose a second in 20 million years.

And here comes an ass hat like you, telling us that humans can't measure the difference between 1.25 seconds and 2.5 seconds!

That is not what I said. I said it would be hard to determine if the person could see the spot in 1.25 seconds because the light is already back to Earth a second later, so this experiment doesn't prove efferent vision wrong.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

Your little made up stories about me mean absolutely nothing. You don't know me Spacemonkey. To tell you the truth, I have no idea why you're here. Think of all the things you could be doing instead of this.

Then this is further evidence of your mental illness, because I've told you several times why I am here. The last time was only a matter of minutes ago. Have you worked out why you are still here yet?

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I don't want to discuss his first discovery with you because you can't get past your one post about presuppositions. It's the biggest joke of all.

Correction: You don't want to discuss his first non-discovery with anyone here. At least that is what you've repeatedly told us. Yet here you are again criticizing others for not discussing what you yourself do not want to discuss. Can you tell me why this behavior should not be viewed as evidence of mental illness?

[davidm]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

That is not what I said. I said it would be hard to determine if the person could see the spot in 1.25 seconds because the light is already back to Earth a second later, so this experiment doesn't prove efferent vision wrong.

This experiment is done with machines, with no human input necessary at all, involving clocks accurate to one second in 20 million years! Idiot!

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

Peacegirl, how many more times do you have to post before your above claim to be leaving becomes a lie, and your continued presence here justifies our questioning of your sanity by your own above admission?

What I don't understand is that you are wasting precious time here, and for what? If you don't think Lessans has a discovery, why would you be spending it on this thread when there are thousands of other things you could be doing?

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

If you are still here tomorrow can we fairly claim that you were lying and are insane? What if you are still here next week, or a month from now?

Believe me, that's not gonna happen. I'm reviewing the book as we speak. When I'm finished and begin advertising along with working on my website, I will have no desire to come here.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by davidm

This experiment is done with machines, with no human input necessary at all, involving clocks accurate to one second in 20 million years! Idiot!

I'm not talking about the accuracy of the clocks. I'm talking about human error. How can anyone know whether they see the projected light before its return, or the returned light when there is only a second in between?

[davidm]

Even putting aside machines with exquisite accuracy: Are you seriously telling us that an ordinary human mind and optical system can't tell the fucking difference between 1.25 seconds and 2.5 seconds? Hey, peacegirl, have you got a watch or a clock with a fucking second hand? Are you trying to say you can't differentiate between 1.25 seconds and 2.5 seconds?? And you call Maturin a liar, your liar?

Also, peacegirl, you do realize, don't you, that we use the electromagnetic spectrum (of which visible light is a tiny subset) to communicate with distant space probes? Hey, peacegirl, have you ever heard of fucking radio? Well, guess the fuck what! When we send a radio transmission to Rovers on Mars, we have to wait a certain amount of time for their responses to return to us! And do you know what that time is? It's the time that light takes to travel from Mars back to us! If Lessans were right, we would receive those responses instantaneously. But, we don't.

Now what?

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

That is not what I said. I said it would be hard to determine if the person could see the spot in 1.25 seconds because the light is already back to Earth a second later, so this experiment doesn't prove efferent vision wrong.

Don't be stupid. Response times in psychology are regularly accurately measured to within tens of milliseconds. There is nothing even remotely difficult about determining when a spot becomes visible. The difference between 1.25 and 2.5 seconds is huge and easily measurable. You don't have to stop and ask the person what they can see. The observer can be the one doing the timing.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

Correction: You don't want to discuss his first non-discovery with anyone here. At least that is what you've repeatedly told us. Yet here you are again criticizing others for not discussing what you yourself do not want to discuss. Can you tell me why this behavior should not be viewed as evidence of mental illness?

I have never been to a forum where no one is interested in his first discovery. Since I've been here I can count on one hand the number of people that have shown any interest. It's astounds me. You are all constipated! You can't move forward and let the discussion flow in order to see if there is any value to this knowledge. Right off the bat you tell me that he has no proof; he can't support his presuppositions. You are a broken record Spacemonkey.

[davidm]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I'm not talking about the accuracy of the clocks. I'm talking about human error. How can anyone know whether they see the projected light before its return, or the returned light when there is only a second in between?

See my two most recent posts, you lying little ass hat.

[davidm]

Hey, ass hat, why, when we send a radio transmission to Rovers on Mars, do we have to wait for the return message to come to us exactly in accord with the speed of light? Which means DELAYED, as in "delayed seeing." You do realize that the radio spectrum is LIGHT, yeah? Or no? If we had eyes as big as radio telescopes, we could SEE radio light.

[peacegirl]

Originally Posted by Spacemonkey

Don't be stupid. Response times in psychology are regularly accurately measured to within tens of milliseconds. There is nothing even remotely difficult about determining when a spot becomes visible. The difference between 1.25 and 2.5 seconds is huge and easily measurable. You don't have to stop and ask the person what they can see. The observer can be the one doing the timing.

I'd like to see an animation of this. I can't imagine this being possible, or accurate.

[Spacemonkey]

Originally Posted by peacegirl

I'm not talking about the accuracy of the clocks. I'm talking about human error. How can anyone know whether they see the projected light before its return, or the returned light when there is only a second in between?

VERY FUCKING EASILY.

[naturalist.atheist]

Originally Posted by davidm

What the hell are you talking about, peacegirl? Do you even know? Would you honestly have us believe, in a world of atomic clocks, that one can't tell the difference between 1.25 seconds and 2.5 seconds? Just how fucking stupid are you, anyway? Do you own a watch or a clock, peacegirl? Do you mean to say you can't tell the difference between 1.25 seconds and 2.50 seconds?

Laugh Out Loud.

peacegirl doesn't know what to do with the second hand. Nor has she ever been taught the trick of timing seconds by counting in thousands.

[davidm]

Hey, peacegirl, do you know where the word "radio" comes from? No? I'll tell you. It's a neologism for "radiating light." And guess what? Radio light from Mars is delayed, in accordance with c in vacuo, which means real-time seeing is false.