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So this show is not only fun and awesome but has become a meme machine as well as IMO a turning point in 'net discourse. There has been some interesting media coverage concerning the surprising demographic who call themselves "Bronies."

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“First we can’t believe this show is so good, then we can’t believe we’ve become fans for life, then we can’t believe we’re walking down the pink aisle at Toys R Us or asking for the girl’s toy in our Happy Meal,” Allen said in an e-mail to Wired.com. “Then we can’t believe our friends haven’t seen it yet, then we can’t believe they’re becoming bronies too.”
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Sadly this coverage paints a rather pithy picture of Bronies as socially maladaptive nerds. Fox news went so far as to suggest that Bronies are obese, disability-collecting, pedos. Though, thankfully, better than terrorism.


So how did this happen? Know Your Meme suggests that an alarmist article End of the Creator Driven Era that suggested an Anti-Christ like view of the show was picked up by the /co/ boards at 4Chan and mocked. Some of them watched the show, for research purposes don't you know, and became fans. The fandom escalated until the mods attempted to ban Bronies and ... lost. From there the furor spread like Wildfire and the show received a cult following and enough Macros and GIFS to take over the internet.


What shocks and delights me about this is that the Brony discourse is mostly one of love, toleration, and friendship. This is coupled with a demo that is totally desensitized to violence and trolling. The attempt to gore them out of 4chan is evidence of that. Bronies were all like, "meh."

I have been following the discourse on other sites and amazed at both the Honey-Badger-Don't-Care 'tude of Bronies who are under fire. For example a misguided lady on the Momfia board blogged about how creepy she found it and likened them to pedos. Any other web sub culture would have trolled the shit out of her. Instead a score of polite and kind Bronies chimed in to explain and try to put her fears to rest. UN-believable. A similar thread occured at Colbert Nation, though there trolls and haters came out of the wood work with little effect. Even youtube commenters, on the plethora of Brony videos, are civil and ... fun!


Though to be sure, some Bronies have begun to seek revenge:


So now that the history is out there here are some of my theories about this phenomenon.

Teh Kitteh Effect that lisa posited made an impression on me. An anonymous internet allows people to admire things that other social pressures would make impossible. Kawai, the Japanese aesthetic of cuteness has grown and grown. If guys are already fans of Pokemon how short a step is it to My Little Pony, despite our culture's onus on it, if one can anonymously praise it? Once that becomes normalized online, it is easier to do IRL. Especially now with social networking sharing and internet memes storming popular culture.

Another theory I have is that the interwebs are growing up. It seems counter-intuitive when discussing a show about anthropomorphic ponies, BUT- the discourse of these Bronies is 1000% more mature and 20% cooler that these same boys a year ago. We have hit the 10 year mark of households having internet. The net ratz that cut their teeth on trolling and hating online have grown up. I have read several accounts of Bronies in their late twenties questioning their love of violent media and happy to have found an alternative. They are embracing these new ideals while changing their behavior online.

Of course, being the Demimonde, I have to comment on the gender issues inherent in this. BOYS aren't supposed to like weak feminine things. MEN are definitely not. I think that the coming of age demo of many Bronies, (20-30 especially) will mark a change in notions of masculinity. I have also been shocked at how many Bronies will counter misogynistic hatred with serious feminist theory. Perhaps recent popularity in the Schrodinger's Rapist Blog and this has created a kind of perfect storm for these young men.

It is a definite change and one I welcome.

Additionally, I welcome pony fandom, pix, videos and everything pony to this thread.

Such as: Pony Music Videos!



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Old 08-01-2011, 02:40 AM
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This show is really fun to watch and I'm glad the internet is around so that I have people to share it with, and a roommate who is a fellow brony.

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Old 08-01-2011, 02:47 AM
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See! THAT is what I am talking about!

I watched a parody video on youtube I will have to dig up. It was of the pilot. Dude went from making jokes about fetal alcohol syndrome and teen pregnancy, but when he got to Fluttershy's intro he broke the fourth wall and was all. "NO! I can't DO it! I can't make fun of Fluttershy, she is TOO CUTE! Fast forward to the next scene. I'm sorry."

:giggle: That pony has the power to change the world.

ETA: Not sure, I don't have sound on this computer. I have watched so many.
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:giggle: That pony has the power to change the world.
I know, right? Earlier today we went to Wal-Mart and somehow we were suddenly standing in the toy section and they had NO FLUTTERSHY.

Bullshit.

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Yeah, even on the Hasbro website they are sold out of the Fluttershy. I was soooooo sad!

Since the spring semester I have been having Allie moments. I read her old post on blogging vs having to wear pants and I was all, I WANT TO BE A PROFESSIONAL BLOGGER AND NEVER WEAR PANTS EVER AGAIN!

Also for those who are familiar with the Cupcakes meme AND no others!

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SailorDigiMoon has an uncanny ability to do Pinkie's voice. It is not ugly graphic and the music is actually quite beautiful, despite the subject. :giggle:
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I say, an excellent breakdown of this event in culture, wot!

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BOYS aren't supposed to like weak feminine things.
Lauren Faust (executive producer for the first season) herself said her purpose is to make entertainment that is girl focused but not lame. Even before helming MLP, I'd say her track record was pretty successful. Powerpuff Girls was remarkable for starring three babby girls but it didn't alienate boys or even adults. (One of my favorite scenes from the movie includes lines from a Van Halen song. It was pretty funny the way it was done.) I have only seen a few moments of Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends but it did seem entertaining. It is incredible how uniquely feminine the show is while in the same breath it is the opposite of weak.

The strength these ponies show, the important inner strength I mean, as they face external dangers usually the expertise of man-figures (lions and dragons and bears, oh my) and more importantly the internal demons and come out the other side not only unscathed but better than before is something to make Joseph Campbell weep with joy at somebody getting it.

One of my most favorite things about the show is how individual each personality is. They have their strength and also their own weakness. Each pony brings something unique and admirable to the story as a whole. That's why I can't pick a favorite.
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You know, I have only seen a couple episodes of PPG. That is not right. Note to self: Watch those while we wait for season two. I watched Foster's religiously though. One of the best cartoons ever. What made it so watchable was the characters. They lived and breathed their personality. They were emotionally accessible in a way many shows fail to accomplish. Also, brilliant art and design. Brilliant.

Faust did an amazing job making these characters just as wonderful. It is feminine but not girlie in a way I have trouble articulating. The cult of true womanhood ideals of Piety, Purity, Domesticity, and Submissiveness is not the point at all in this show. They are assertive, even our dear Fluttershy. They are dynamic, the clothes horse fashionista Rarity is an ambitious business owner. Piety is passe, but they have purity in flawed and human (lol) ways. There is emphasis on community and friendship which is cooperative rather than dependant. I love that. And you are right it is far from weak.


I understand you not picking a favorite. They are all wonderful.
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And for anyone not sure what the hell we're all on about, you can watch all of the episodes right here.

The biggest non-corporate pony sight is probably Equestria Daily, where you can find news about the shows, ponyfiction, pony art and damn near anything else one could imagine. There are also, for those so inclined, two pony makers. (You're on your own for cutie marks, though.) And I CAN HAZ has already ponied up it's own My Little Brony section for it's website. (I don't particularly care for that because some of the submissions are outside the boundaries for my taste.)

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:hug: Brony, I totally forgot to link the show! Thanks! Equestria Daily is awesome as well.

I can definitely attest to the greatness of the pony generators. You have all been enjoying Boobkicker Olympony as my av for a bit. Bro made her and you can see the larger one as my profile pic.

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And for anyone not sure what the hell we're all on about, you can watch all of the episodes right here.
Also, for video quality whores like me, the top two stickies on Ponychan are helpful: Friendship is Magic

Ponychan is also good for things like

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Now this is a story all about how
My life got flip-turned upside now
And I'd like to take a minute, just sit down guys
And I'll tell how I tell you how I became a brony, much to my surprise

Iiiiiin North-Western England born and raised
On the 'net is where I spent most of my days
Chillin' out, surfin', and being sort of bored
While the rest of my friends went and joined the horde

When a couple of bros, who I misunderstood
Started postin' ponies in my neighbourhood
They got in one flaming war, but my interest was piqued
So I asked about ponies, while /b/ went and freaked

I asked for a vid and when it was linked
The ponies were cool, and the art style distinct
If anything I could say this show was sweet
And in fact, yes I did, are there fans I could meet?

I pulled up to the site about seven or eight
And I told all my bronies "Hey guys, this is great!"
I looked at my bronies, and from this moment whence
This is the place I come for love and tolerance
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I would posit she means the SRS discussion of a CARTOON. But I'm totally guessing.
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The fastest route to getting a guffaw out of me are vernacular related. The most prevalent in MLP is the swapping out of -one for -pony. As in, is anypony going to the store? Would somepony please tell me what's going on! But the unexpected ones are my favoritest: The city names.
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  • Cloudsdale
  • Manehatten
  • Fillydelphia (my personal favorite)
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Bort is right, although not so much the fact of it being a cartoon. It's the thoughtful, enthusiastic and content-rich exploration of an aspect of pop culture that reminds me of many a college class. Liberal Arts, donchaknow.
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I gotcha liv. I was just wondering if you had any particular funny recollections.

Bort, I am a sucker for puns and that is a great appeal for me too. Contra guffaws at those as well.
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Okay, between you guys and our roomie who is mostly into stuff like reading about decomposition pitching this, I give. I'll watch the !@#*!# show.

How do I see me some magical ponies?
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Welcome to the herd seebs! :cheer:

Brotherman posted a link in post #9 and Naru posted an HD link in post # 11.

That is another interesting element to the craze. Hasbro doesn't care so much about copyright because all the exposure is great for the toy line. Now that is a trifle ironic give the alarmist stance of the "Creator Driven Cartoon" blog. The huge expansion of Brony media could not have happened as easily had Hasbro NOT been in the equation. Instead the two have a mutually beneficial symbiotic relationship. They have even been so good as to release audio files in high def which separate the music, FX, and dialogue to help in the creation of videos and the like. Which the creative fans make wonderful use of.

This enables thousands of creators to make art freely. Faust has shown that a talented artist won't necessarily sell out and can still make an excellent program. The fans make hours of additional entertainment on top of that. Not a bad deal at all.
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I love how stuff spins off from this show. Just look up Derpy. Or the pony with an hourglass cutie mark that appeared a few times, spawning My Little Time Lord,



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Brotherman posted a link in post #9 and Naru posted an HD link in post # 11.
Just beware of fakes ala the one in post #3; that's the first video I chose to watch in this thread and it did not enamor me of ponies! Fortunately I realized it was a parody and watched some of the real episode one. :hyperventilate:

Btw I only watched about 5 minutes from the middle of the real one but I got into it. I'll start over from the beginning later.
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That is ADORABLE.

ETA: ... and NOT available on DVD? What are they thinking?
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It should be available Soon™, as the season only ended earlier this year.
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This is my favorite mash up.
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Honestly the first episode isn't that good compared to later ones. I'd suggest starting with this one, as it introduces the characters nicely and is still a decent episode.

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