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Old 09-14-2020, 01:11 AM
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If there was one thing I would tell people after all my research and conversations with pseudoscientists and con-artists, it’s this. The people running the cult or con know what they are doing and are doing it on purpose. There’s no accidents, if something sounds strange or dumb it was meant too, they didn’t accidentally misinterpret something, and when they claim they did, they are deliberately trying to manipulate you, and you better watch out because they are often good at it!
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Old 09-14-2020, 02:35 PM
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On that note, I suspect a lot of people find Qanon appealing because it makes real child sexual abuse look tame.
Meanwhile the over-the-top and highly politicized level of hysteria I've seen on Twitter and Facebook over Netflix airing "Cuties"--a film that apparently critiques the hyper-sexualization of children in the dance world--is adding even more noise to the signal. I'm willing to bet the vast majority of "dance moms" are Trump supporters, and probably no small number of them are Q-believers.
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Old 09-14-2020, 04:58 PM
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Yeah, that kind of merged nicely with the current hysteria. I blame Netflix for that, too, though. They made an awful title card for it, then started running it on people's TVs before it was even available. So they threw it up in people's faces, whether they were likely to be interested or not. Those ads don't seem to at all be tailored to recommendations--they're literally just general purpose ads trying to push specific things.

A lot of people are used to the 'what you see is what' you get big US studio movies, so they came to their conclusions based just on that promo that Netflix was pushing into their living rooms, and people who jump to conclusions like that don't give them up easily. There was bound to be some backlash, but it's worse now because we're right in the middle of a mass panic.

I'm all for canceling Netflix for the fact that their Roku app takes over your whole TV and runs their awful slideshows if you forget to fully close the app. But I feel bad for the director. She won the director's prize at Sundance with what I think was her first feature length movie, only to have Netflix set her up like that with their dumbfuck marketing.
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Strikes me as where TV the as headed after Honey Boo Boo.

Cringe.
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Oh my god.

Yesterday, "Q" posted a picture of antifa posing in front of an ISIS billboard, saying "Know your enemy."

What the hell do these idiots think that picture IS? It's just what it looks like: An antifa group who just liberated a region in Syria from ISIS. Sort of like how you can find plenty of pictures of US soldiers holding Nazi flags during WWII.

Untold Story of Antifa Platoon: Brigade Helped Defeat ISIS - Rolling Stone

Edit: Found some goober on Twitter reposting the picture. Soros is in on it, too, apparently.
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On that note, I suspect a lot of people find Qanon appealing because it makes real child sexual abuse look tame. So hey, so what if Trump raped a 13 year old? Did you see what Hillary did? A lot of them are covering for themselves, too.
Oh, hey, this person is smart and totally called it.

This is the main Qanon subreddit, which just got banned for reasons including "posting sexually suggestive content involving minors."

And here is a cache of I guess one of the final posts, from the forum moderator.

He got busted with child porn and is feeling pretty sorry for himself, and these Qanon believers, who fantasize in all kinds of detail about executing the supernatural deep state pedophiles, are quite forgiving and supportive of this actual pedophile who got caught and just wish him the best.
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Old 09-16-2020, 06:46 PM
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Actually since you ask this because I forgot to add it. I never went down the road of the dark web it was too scary for me. The police asked me about this as it must be a main point for users to go to in order to find stuff. But when this started it was actually google that helped me find the websites I used. Google suggested my pathway to the addiction.
So he was just out there googling for kiddie porn and it’s googles fault.

I like the whole, I didn’t use the dark web just the google.


Real tech savvy.

I know they tend stupid, but damn.
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:26 PM
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"it was too scary for me" = "I can't figure out how to"

But I can tell you that I have used Google to try to look up some kind of statistics or other information about child porn for internet arguments, and it'd throw this big warning message telling me it is bad and I think it had some number to call for counseling or something. And that was years and years ago. Surely he saw that same message.
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:42 PM
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Haha!
This is starting to explain why some of their members might think research is just googling “Which liberals traffic children?”
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This feels like the type of detective work Q expects happens in the real world. Sure burqas are clearly the best and least obvious way to disguise yourself in a non muslim country, but let’s not get too tricky, better carry a Halal takeaway to make it obvious it’s not just a disguise!

It’s like the people who seriously believed Bacon before you board airlines would prevent terrorist attacks because no muslim would eat bacon! As if they would get to the gate and go “Oh, yep, you got me!”

Slightly related, we have a small muslim community around where I live and I chuckle to myself everytime I see some of the ladies in burqas having made zero changes to their outfit to prep it for the covid and fire apocalypse.
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Couple of articles about Amy Coney Barrett's religious affliations.

Opinion | Why Amy Coney Barrett’s Religious Beliefs Aren’t Off Limits - POLITICO

How Charismatic Catholic Groups Like Amy Coney Barrett's People of Praise Inspired 'The Handmaid's Tale'
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Communism is basically the rights version of “toxins.” What exactly are they, no one knows, how exactly do they make you sick, no one knows. But they increase your feelings of unease and are probably to blame for any health issue with no solution. Better yet, pay us today and the toxins will be gone! Give the toxins a name and details and suddenly you have people coming up with their own solutions, and an end goal, look all the hydroxic acid has been banned from our products, we can rest easy again! That doesn’t keep them coming back for more.

Toxins, demons, communists, Thetans, witches, gremlins, feminists, muslims etc. are all the same thing in this context. The representation of that scary feeling that things aren’t going your way and you want control back.

It’s all especially telling when many capitalist worshipers have slowly taken credit for *good* communist things, as if communism just straight up means “bad” and anything not bad is a sign capitalism is being embraced.
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This is not a wholly new ideology. Just as Trump is leveraging a deeply rooted national history of anti-communist paranoia, from McCarthyism to Massive Resistance, so Bolsonaro is reviving the anti-communism of the Brazilian Integralists in the 1930s, and the period of military dictatorship from 1964-1985.
I will now again strongly recommend "The Jakarta Method", by Vincent Bevins, for a deep look at the key role the US played in propagating this anti-communist mythology around the globe throughout the 20th century and into the present. The number of people who have been murdered goes far above and beyond the few who were killed by "lone wolf" shooters, including as many as a million (by some estimates) in Indonesia alone.
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"Communist" is a label that has been attached to more than one kind of player. Notably, it was tainted by the success of the Marxist revolutionaries in Russia, who ushered in a regime that became Stalinist without ever dropping the label "communist". Hence "communists' in pre-war Germany were of two colours; those who believed Germans could be made free from capitalism, and those who believed they should be subsumed into the USSR.

The latter were in charge of the party.

Communist Party of Germany - Wikipedia

Communism has a justly bad name as a result. I have no idea how we might fix this.
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I've been thinking about the role of YouTube's recommendation algorithm in this stuff. I would love to see someone set up a bunch of bots to start out watching various types of benign videos, click on the recommendations randomly, and see how long it takes for them to end up in the crazy right wing conspiracy videos.

It supposedly happens pretty quickly if you start with wellness, self-help, or current events, but I'd like to see it with other stuff, too.
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I wish I'd made a screen cap of it, because I can't remember what it was that triggered a couple weirdo videos to show up in my recommends

I watch exclusively music and remove other videos I watch from history unless it's some TED talk I want to view again. Someone sent me some music outside my normal wheelhouse and after the music played the screen had two strange utterly unrelated video suggestions that were what I'd call entry level conspiracy.

Next time this happens I'll try to screencap and post.
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Here's some talking about the algorithm last year:



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And this year it's pedogate qanons running amok.
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And another thrad form last year:

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The NYT's Rabbit Hole podcast focuses a lot on those algorithms. They even have a part where some guy agrees to let them see his entire YouTube history so they can track how it led him right into hard right craziness.

Also, I just went to YouTube using Tor, searched for something like "depression self help" and let it autoplay to see how long it'd take to get creepy, but just a few videos in (on one about public defecation in India!), they detected I was acting fishy and blocked me.
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Blocked you.

New (old) conspiracy: Alphabet has something to hide.
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