Climategate 2.0

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By "climate change" I am speaking to the con, the grift, the fake narrative that CO2 from fossil fuels is causing planetary changes that will lead to catastrophic warming (whatever that actually means), as well as all the economic/political nonsense involved.

It's all a con. It's fake.

I am not talking about actual global climate change, which is very real.

[LarsMac]

Originally Posted by -FX-

By "climate change" I am speaking to the con, the grift, the fake narrative that CO2 from fossil fuels is causing planetary changes that will lead to catastrophic warming (whatever that actually means), as well as all the economic/political nonsense involved.

It's all a con. It's fake.

I am not talking about actual global climate change, which is very real.

Maybe the part about "CO2 from fossil fuels is causing planetary changes" may be a tad over the top, but, it has been established that the fossil fuel consumption is one of the factors contributing to the overall warming of the atmosphere. (And, a fairly significant one, at that.)

[mickthinks]

Climate change is as fake as her recent "arrest".
So, not fake at all. lol Glad we've got that sorted at last!

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Yes, yes, we have it all sorted out now

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Originally Posted by The Lone Ranger

I dunno. I've certainly had the experience of vividly remembering a passage from a speech I heard or a book I read -- only to later hear a recording of the speech or re-read the book and discover that the passage hadn't gone as I had so vividly remembered. If there's one thing that has been demonstrated beyond doubt, it's that our memories aren't anywhere near as precise or as reliable as we would like to think.

Very very true. In fact, powerful memories, that seem absolutely real, no doubt about it, can turn out to be completely wrong. Not just slightly wrong.

In fact, they might be the absolute opposite of what actually happened.

I know this from experience, and it's not like it's always something in the distant past. It can happen in events that occurred recently.

It's really fucking disturbing to experience.

It's also why science is so valuable. Especially good record keeping, and data that is trusted, valid, and can be replicated.

It's the data that led me to my views, and each year that goes by confirms that the authorities, the powers that be, are fucking liars.

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Originally Posted by Kevlar

How about an atomic clock? Just like other metric systems of measurement, it's based on a repeatable scientific process instead of a arbitrary unit of measurement.

The problem with both time and space being defined by a "repeatable process", is that neither process used, for time or distance, are repeatable in any sense of the word.

If a second is formally defined as "9,192,631,770 vibrations of the unperturbed ground-state hyperfine transition frequency of the caesium-133 atom" (this is the SI definition)

And a meter is formally defined as the length of the path travelled by light in a vacuum in 1/299792458 of a second, (it is), then how fast can your car go?

Nobody, even the scientists running the atomic clocks can actually repeat the process so that they can say. While almost anybody can measure the speed of a car, in miles and hours.

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Of course they are making a standard, nobody actually uses the SI methods for either time or distance.

But none of this deals with metric time. The SI just redefines the existing second. It doesn't make time metric. So it doesn't make time any easier to use in scientific methods.

All of which has nothing to do with the purloined emails, code and what it means to an actual person.

And this is exactly how we like it.

[Kevlar]

Originally Posted by -FX-

The problem with both time and space being defined by a "repeatable process", is that neither process used, for time or distance, are repeatable in any sense of the word.

If a second is formally defined as "9,192,631,770 vibrations of the unperturbed ground-state hyperfine transition frequency of the caesium-133 atom" (this is the SI definition)

And a meter is formally defined as the length of the path travelled by light in a vacuum in 1/299792458 of a second, (it is), then how fast can your car go?

Nobody, even the scientists running the atomic clocks can actually repeat the process so that they can say. While almost anybody can measure the speed of a car, in miles and hours.

So you Googled a couple of facts and then wrapped them with babble. I have no idea what you are trying to say.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

This is like the time Jerome was pretending to be a flat earther.

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Originally Posted by Kamilah Hauptmann

This is like the time Jerome was pretending to be a flat earther.

I'm pretty sure Jerome actually believes the earth is flat.

Which has nothing to do with the topic.

The reason there is no metric system for time, is simple enough. Unlike distance and weight, everybody was already using the same measurement for time. A day divided by 24, then divided by 60, then divided by 60.

But now the second is divided by a metric system, which means we do indeed have metric time, but only in dividing a second. It doesn't scale up the other way, because that would be stupid and useless. Sort of like a Kilometer. For large distances, parsecs and light years are used

Not anything metric

And a light year is defined by time, which also isn't metric.

Also, has nothing to do with Climategate

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Seriously, nobody would use Kiloseconds, because it doesn't mean anything.

[LarsMac]

Originally Posted by -FX-

Seriously, nobody would use Kiloseconds, because it doesn't mean anything.

"Kilowhatever" means "thousandwhatever"

It's pretty simple, really.

Though it has fairly limited usage, since normal people have minutes and hours for that shit.

[Kevlar]

People use millisecond very frequently, so the metric system is applied to time.

Kiloseconds, while rare, are an established metric of time used mainly in sciences.

Kilosecond | Units of Measurement Wiki | Fandom.

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The metric system certainly makes math and science waaaay easier.

Except when it comes to time.

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Originally Posted by fragment

So all that water that's not in Lake Mead..

When they allocated water from the Colorado river, and created Lake Mead, they used a metric for stream flow that was too high. At the time they did not know the measurements were all from a very wet period.

It's impossible to just admit it, and report "people are using too much water", so they blame climate change. If a wet period started, and there was "too much" water, that would also be blamed on climate change.

It's sort of the perfect "out" for almost anything. Blame all of the industrial world for any kind of weather that is not perfect.

At which point I always have to post a disclaimer. I am 99.9% sure industrial modern man is fucking things up. Just not in the "global warming" way.

[Crumb]

Originally Posted by -FX-

The metric system certainly makes math and science waaaay easier.

Except when it comes to time.

Oh, I guess that is why we don't use it for time.

[Ari]

New Imperial Time: I’ll be there at three shakes of a gopher's tail past the bulls rod but can only stay for a caterpillar’s head.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

This thrad was made for derails anyway.

[Stephen Maturin]

That there Kamilah Hauptmann is crazy, I tell ya. "A few medium-sized corporations shy of a Jerome," in lingo.

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22.86 cm Nails would never make it as a band name

[LarsMac]

Climate misinformation ‘rocket boosters’ on Musk’s Twitter

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Posting a link is not the same as posting. You fucking idiot.

See? That was a post. Just posting tweets or links is as useless as a flat earthed explaining the tides.

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If you thought the "you fucking idiot" was directed at you, and you are one of those boring as fuck idiots who does that shit, then yes, it was directed at you.

[LarsMac]

OH! I am slain!

[ceptimus]

Your computer, and most computers, keep track of time in seconds. Unix time is the number of seconds elapsed since the start of the year 1970. If you click that link, you'll see the live number, ticking away.

There was some concern that there would be another potential 'Millennium bug' on January 19, 2038, when Unix time overflows the maximum value that can be stored in a 32-bit register. But while it's still a problem, it's not as severe as once thought, because by 2038, most computers are now expected to be 64-bit or above.