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Old 09-07-2021, 09:03 PM
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Let's do something different. I am looking for would-be administrators for small groups on the web. The topic of the group is the group itself. You will be in charge of administering the following rules:

1a) The administrators and/or mods shall not remove, edit or delete posts, nor delete threads, nor ban users, nor use any other automated moderation without the consent of a majority of the active elected membership.

1b) Rule 1a may be amended by a 2/3rds majority of the active elected membership.

As admin, you will have no power to make rules for the group. Your power will be only in the implementation of the rules. To begin, I reserve exclusive right to develop a complete body of rules for the group. You and the members can have input. I am willing to supply a complete training program for any admin that will best enable you to administer these rules. We can continue any discussions about these rules in the groups, once they are set up.
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Old 09-07-2021, 09:22 PM
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Sign me up for the group group group group. The topic of that group will be the group group group's administration of the group group's discussion about the group.

I will not partake in any of the sordid discussions in the group, group group, OR the group group group. Those conversations are beneath me.
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I am willing to supply a complete training program for any admin that will best enable you to administer these rules.
I suggest a short two week workshop in Tuscany.
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Group Group. What is Group? :spock2:
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So, a group of groups committed to discussing grouping of groups within the group?
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lol I forgot about this guy. Do you remember that time you PM'ed me just to call me a cocksucker

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I have long envied liv's irrational hatred of usernames with numbers in, and longed for such a hang-up of my own.

Now I realise I may have had one all along. I saw a new thread from some poser, I'm sorry, poster, calling himself FunctionalOneness, and I knew.

Any username of the form "[optional abstract adjective] abstract noun" indicates a user worthy of mockery and ignoring.

Examples:
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*Libertarian
naturalist.atheist
newnature
democracy

I think the majority of you are with me on this.

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So I’ve been adjacent to a number of virtual world communities over the decades and the democracies have always had the best drama.

A democracy or most forms of government rely on relative fixed locations and identities of people, as well as the relative permanence of real estate.

In virtual space unreal estate can be created and destroyed, and identities can be created and destroyed as well as duplicated.

What happens with the losing side of a vote? Losers create their own unreal estate, might replace identities, and move place.
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I have long envied liv's irrational hatred of usernames with numbers in, and longed for such a hang-up of my own.

Now I realise I may have had one all along. I saw a new thread from some poser, I'm sorry, poster, calling himself FunctionalOneness, and I knew.

Any username of the form "[optional abstract adjective] abstract noun" indicates a user worthy of mockery and ignoring.

Examples:
FunctionalOneness
mentalsurveillance
Awareness
*Libertarian
naturalist.atheist
newnature
democracy

I think the majority of you are with me on this.

I disagree with this rule. You can talk about it in the group group group.
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Old 09-09-2021, 01:32 AM
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The OP (both with and without the "er" at the end of the second word) strikes me as exceptionally vacuous, but worthy of discussion nonetheless. Let us talk serious talk in the private forums.
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I have long envied liv's irrational hatred of usernames with numbers in, and longed for such a hang-up of my own.

Now I realise I may have had one all along. I saw a new thread from some poser, I'm sorry, poster, calling himself FunctionalOneness, and I knew.

Any username of the form "[optional abstract adjective] abstract noun" indicates a user worthy of mockery and ignoring.

Examples:
FunctionalOneness
mentalsurveillance
Awareness
*Libertarian
naturalist.atheist
newnature
democracy

I think the majority of you are with me on this.

I disagree with this rule. You can talk about it in the group group group.
Please don't discuss decisions of a moderator in the thread. Thank you.
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i actually kinda already have one of these.
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Prior to this post, there were 14 posted posts in this thread:


01 democracy
02 JoeP
03 specious_reasons
04 Stormlight
05 Crumb
06 Larsmac
07 Ensign Steve
08 ChuckF
09 JoeP
10 Kamilah Hauptmann
11 specious_reasons
12 Stephen Maturin
13 Stormlight
14 ZEZOZE

These 14 posts were all performed between Sep 7th and Sep 22nd, 2021 by 12 posters.

The latest post (Post 15 by democracy) was entered on Mar 29th, 2024.


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Let's do something different. I am looking for would-be administrators for small groups on the web. The topic of the group is the group itself. You will be in charge of administering the following rules:
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1a) The administrators and/or mods shall not remove, edit or delete posts, nor delete threads, nor ban users, nor use any other automated moderation without the consent of a majority of the active elected membership.

1b) Rule 1a may be amended by a 2/3rds majority of the active elected membership.

As admin, you will have no power to make rules for the group. Your power will be only in the implementation of the rules. To begin, I reserve exclusive right to develop a complete body of rules for the group. You and the members can have input. I am willing to supply a complete training program for any admin that will best enable you to administer these rules. We can continue any discussions about these rules in the groups, once they are set up.

What is unusual about these rules is that they place the power in the hands of the elected membership. The members can gauge how much free speech they would allow. The agreement may be amended. I would prefer that it be nearly impossible for an admin to interfere in the speech on this forum. In the case of banning people from this forum, I would campaign for some number closer to unanimity, rather than a simple majority.

These rules appeal to me because in my over two decades of activity on the social web, I have never been alarmed by any poster on the Internet, and the behavior that I felt needed regulation was the behavior of moderators and administrators. Simply, because they pose the greatest threat to free speech on the social web. Therefore I am actively campaigning for a new generation of admins who shall agree to submit to the rule of a constitution. I am fully prepared to answer any and all questions or issues about my plans.
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