Winnie the Flu

[Miisa]

I came across this graph by our Finnish health authorities that made it clear even for me, a non-graph airhead:



Considering our vaccination level in those age groups overall is about 82% fully vaccinated it seems the bars should be inversed if the vaccination did not offer substantial protection from serious illness.

[beyelzu]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

This is what we already knew, but goddamn, this visualization:

Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates : Shots - Health News : NPR

Yeah, it’s a good article.

"An unvaccinated person is three times as likely to lean Republican as they are to lean Democrat," says Liz Hamel, vice president of public opinion and survey research at the Kaiser Family Foundation, a nonpartisan health policy think tank that tracks attitudes toward vaccination. Political affiliation is now the strongest indicator of whether someone is vaccinated, she says: "If I wanted to guess if somebody was vaccinated or not and I could only know one thing about them, I would probably ask what their party affiliation is."

I thought this quote really illustrates the vax divide.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Originally Posted by beyelzu

I thought this quote really illustrates the vax divide.

"Who won the election?" might refine it further. Lots of right wingers who haven't gone full conspiracy nutjob.

[beyelzu]

“Real America is done with #COVID19,” Jordan tweeted, ignoring data, experts and reality. “The only people who don’t understand that are Fauci and Biden.”

Jim Jordan is a dipshit and covid doesn’t care how conservatives feel about the pandemic.

I imagine if it could care, it would be happy that they think the pandemic is over. .

[ceptimus]

We probably should have a separate thread ( maybe in the philosophy forum? ) where we can discuss theories explaining WHY it's mostly right-wingers that are anti-vax - and why extreme right-wingers are often extreme anti-vaxers. The same goes (I think) for not wearing masks, continuing to want social gatherings, not restricting international travel - it seems to me that all methods of combatting the spread of the virus are attacked and ridiculed by right wingers.

[Jerome]

...yea, all those right-wingers protesting covid mandates all across the western world...



You have been fooled to think this is about politics, that is why you can not look at it either rationally, nor scientifically.

Trump was the one pushing the vaccines!!!! Fucking lmao @ you guys.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Miisa

unattributed graph from an image hosting site

...but scientific data from the CDC and the manufactures of the vaccines is ignored.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

[Miisa]

Just for Jerome who doesn't appreciate my attempts to offer translated screenshots because they don't fit what Jerome wants:

Tartunnat ja hoidon tarve rokotussuojan mukaan - Koronarokotusten vaikuttavuus Suomessa - THL kuutio- ja tiivistekäyttöliittymä

THL is our government health authority.

Enjoy google translateattempt. Not that you will even try, because you already know otherwise, right?

[beyelzu]

Originally Posted by Miisa

Just for Jerome who doesn't appreciate my attempts to offer translated screenshots because they don't fit what Jerome wants:

Tartunnat ja hoidon tarve rokotussuojan mukaan - Koronarokotusten vaikuttavuus Suomessa - THL kuutio- ja tiivistekäyttöliittymä

THL is our government health authority.

Enjoy google translateattempt. Not that you will even try, because you already know otherwise, right?

I appreciate the source, but I already trusted your translation.

Jerome has consistently demonstrated himself to be a disingenuous, racist piece off shit who misrepresents evidence when he isn’t just lying and making shit up.

You’ve demonstrated that you do value expert opinion and are cool.

It’s unsurprising that more of us choose to interact with you than him.

Also, I imagine a lot members of have him on ignore than you.

[Miisa]

Well, I also have him [she? it? they?] on ignore like everyone else, but I decided to raise my stress levels today and take a peek, because I was cold and needed some steam to be produced inside my head.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by Miisa

THL is our government health authority.

hmmm how convenient for your narrative

[Dragar]

Originally Posted by Jerome

...but scientific data from the CDC and the manufactures of the vaccines is ignored.

Wow Jerome, now it turns out the graph is from the Finnish government health authority - you sure must feel stupid now Jerome, for dismissing something simply because it doesn't fit your conspiracy theory!

[Miisa]

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Originally Posted by Miisa

I understood that reference.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Leaked video shows No 10 officials joking about holding Christmas party | Conservatives | The Guardian

[JoeP]

Originally Posted by Miisa

Just for Jerome who doesn't appreciate my attempts to offer translated screenshots because they don't fit what Jerome wants:

Tartunnat ja hoidon tarve rokotussuojan mukaan - Koronarokotusten vaikuttavuus Suomessa - THL kuutio- ja tiivistekäyttöliittymä

THL is our government health authority.

Enjoy google translateattempt. Not that you will even try, because you already know otherwise, right?

My Finnish teacher gives me selected news articles to translate. A lot of them have involved koronaviruksia and rokotuksia and rajoituksia.

[Jerome]

...but scientific data from the CDC and the manufactures of the vaccines is ignored.

Remember now that the heart attacks in the vaccinated are caused by the unvaccinated.

[ChuckF]

Originally Posted by JoeP

koronaviruksia

what the hell does that mean

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

I'd like to nominate my mom, on behalf of my siblings and I. : HermanCainAward

[Jerome]

DocumentCloud

Nothing says trust the science like the FDA demanding from the Court to have 75 years to release the scientific data on the vaccines.

[fragment]

That appears to be a brief which the FDA says it plans to have released more than 12,000 pages of data by the end of January.

[Jerome]

Thousands facing heart problems due to ‘post-pandemic stress disorder’ | Evening Standard

Up to 300,000 people facing heart-related illnesses due to post-pandemic stress disorder, warn physicians

Mark Rayner, a former senior NHS psychological therapist and founder of EASE Wellbeing CIC, said that as many as three million people in Britain are already suffering from PPSD, thanks to stress and anxiety caused by the effects of Covid-19.

Told you so.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Guy selling malaria drugs says things.

[beyelzu]

If there is anyone who really knows immunology, epidemiology, and virology it’s former therapists.