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Do y'all boost with Pfizer after AZ main series?
Nope, all three were Pfizer. I had a similar response after the first shot, but this was worse. My wife and several colleagues reacted similarly to the booster.
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For me, yes. AZ round 1 and 2, Pfizer chaser.
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The booster didn't affect me at all, other than a very slightly sore arm for a day or two. I had AZ for the first two, but they gave me the Moderna booster. We don't get a choice :shrug:

I've continued to have almost constant slight headaches ever since my first jab (over nine months ago). I never suffered those before the jab, but I suppose it could just be a coincidence.
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I have heard from a few people that whatever ailment you had before the booster - sore elbow, regular headaches, sore throat, swollen knees, etc - gets magnified by the booster for a day or two. Almost as if it makes you more sensitive to any pains or aches you had beforehand.
Cannot yet confirm, but hoping to boost up at a point when I am the least creaky.
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Driving those decisions is alarm at Omicron’s wildfirelike spread—and caution in the face of major uncertainty. If Omicron makes people just as sick as the Delta variant, models predict a staggering rise of hospitalizations—many times what most health systems can handle. If Omicron causes milder disease than Delta, things would be less catastrophic—but even then, “a considerable overload of the hospitals is to be expected,” a group of experts warned in a 19 December report to the German government. A massive Omicron wave might also lead to many more cases of Long Covid.

It will take weeks before epidemiological data deliver a clear verdict about disease severity. But preliminary lab data, and a few real-world clues, are raising hope among optimists, while others reserve judgment. “If it turns out there is reduced severity from Omicron, there are now potentially some mechanisms that might help explain this,” says Tom Peacock, a virologist at Imperial College London (ICL). “On the other hand there may be some mechanisms that could explain the opposite. So it’s still a bit of a mess until the real-world data crystallizes.”
So some optimism but temper that shit.

Early lab studies hint Omicron may be milder. But most scientists reserve judgment | Science | AAAS

I wonder what the R0 of Omicron would be in a naive population. Delta was 8-9 and this is more transmissible by all accounts.
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From a purely layman's point of view, wouldn't Omicron's ability to cause breakthrough infections in fully (double) vaccinated people lead to it looking more mild on average as more of the vaccinated people are getting it, but more likely then milder cases? Are there yet any papers on the impact of it compared to Alpha or Delta on people who are unvaccinated and also are not known to have had Covid before?
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From a purely layman's point of view, wouldn't Omicron's ability to cause breakthrough infections in fully (double) vaccinated people lead to it looking more mild on average as more of the vaccinated people are getting it, but more likely then milder cases

Yes, it is possible and that’s why any optimism needs to be tempered. I would go so far as to say that it’s certain that Omicron appears more mild because of the breakthrough infections. T cell immunity is still strong against Omicron. So you get a mild disease that is cleared quickly in vaccinated or previously infected.

There is potentially other evidence that also points to mild disease.

Omicron is less able to infect cell lines that we have been using to study other strains and they make less multinuclei cells in lungs that may be associated with severe disease and it seems to infect bronchial cells better than lung cells (which could make it more transmissible and less severe)

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I haven’t seen anything good yet.

I would love to see omicron severity compared to seroprevalence or vaccination rates.

There are multitudes of people who have more expertise than I do working on this, but most of the ways that I can think of to answer the question would take weeks to set up or for just enough data to accumulate (in effect using the omicron waves as natural experiments and using vacc rate when known to do comparisons) or going out and doing the seroprevalence surveys.

Its not exactly morbid, more detached curiosity, but Im really interested in how Omicron works out.

Delta was just scary, but Omicron is interesting.
Like if it’s communicable enough, even if it really is more mild, it could still overrun hospitals and then it isn’t so mild.

Although, iirc data from England isn’t showing ICU usage increasing iirc, and hospital beds aren’t in nearly as short of supply as ICUs.
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The data from the UK is pretty skewed right now though. London seems to have had a few weeks headstart on the rest of the country. Hospitalisations are increasing there, but it's too early to say how high they'll climb.

We're in the dark.
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BBC has a report on how South African scientists have put forward the theory that the Omicron variant originated in a person with untreated HIV, also suffering from long-term COVID infection.
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A bunch of QAnon promoters got sick after a conference—they blame anthrax instead of COVID

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The ReAwaken America Tour features a mixture of QAnon conspiracy theorists, big name conservatives, and far-right figures. Presenters at the event, held Dec. 9-11, in Dallas, Texas included Eric Trump, Michael Flynn, Mike Lindell, Joe Oltmann, and Jovan Hutton Pulitzer.

Now Oltmann, Pulitzer, and a purported dozen others who were in a green room together are sick. Their illness comes as the omicron variant of COVID ravages the nation.

The conspiracy theory that Oltmann's, Pulitzer's, and others' illness was caused by an anthrax attack emerged in recent days.

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On Wednesday morning, Oltmann wrote on Telegram that Pulitzer had contacted him. He said Pulitzer had tested negative for anthrax and claimed he has "weird symptoms so no idea what he has."
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Joe Oltmann is a homegrown lolorado whackjob. Needless to say, we're all busting our buttons with pride over that shit. As Colorado Springs Independent reporter Heidi Beedle recently said in connection with the anthrax nutjobbery:

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2. In addition to the regulars, the guy who invented the CueCat barcode scanner was there.
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I live with my mom. My mom tested positive for covid. I'm feeling sick. I'm asked to still come into work. I work at a retirement home. : antiwork

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The local Nashville rag published a list of events closed for New Year's Eve in light of the high infection rates.
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Johnson's gamble is that the NHS can cope with that curve, and he may be right.
5 months on, the curve is looking distinctly unthreatening. Maybe the UK have tamed the Covid beast.
1 month further on, and Omicron has reared a very ugly-looking head.
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