Properganders @ Propaganda & Disinformation

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Fake "liberal" Twitter account exposed: We should worry less about AI and more about human stupidity | Salon.com

Stolen quote from elsewhere:

This is straight out of Putin's playbook in Russia, where, as Peter Pomerantsev describes in This Is Not Propaganda, instead of trying to suppress everything but its official version of the truth, as did the USSR, state and Putin-owned media cynically provided dozens of conflicting versions of reality without regard for their factual basis, in order to undermine people's faith in any sort of fact-based reality.

[JoeP]

At least some people are starting new threads.

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Originally Posted by Kamilah Hauptmann

Fake "liberal" Twitter account exposed: We should worry less about AI and more about human stupidity | Salon.com

Let me help you out there Salon writer AMANDA MARCOTTE, author of no less than
Troll Nation: How The Right Became Trump-Worshipping Monsters Set On Rat-Fucking Liberals, America, and Truth Itself

When you write:

Her account was wildly popular, with "more than 130,000 followers for her hyper-liberal, often melodramatic opinions," Harwell wrote.

OK that's fucking pathetic. 130,000 followers is nowhere close to wildly popular. If you think so, you are an idiot.

Crucially, however, she wasn't familiar to the flesh-and-blood Democratic voters of the real world. Instead, she's "popular with conservatives, who promoted her as a perfect symbol of how overly theatrical and inane liberals can be."

None of that is true. In fact, your piece reads like a troll post.

I have a feeling it's going to get worse.

It also helped that her photos, which experts told Harwell are likely faked, portrayed a conventionally attractive young blonde woman. As anyone who watches Fox News regularly can attest, "hot girl liberal" is a favorite hate object offered up to their aging and largely male audience.

Unless you regularly watch FOX news, how would you know that? I don't know anyone who knows that. It's also not true. The hotness of a girl is not what anyone hates. It's when the stupid mouth hole starts working.

But hey, why don't you show us an example?

The anger at women who disagree with them combines with their sexual insecurities to create a white-hot "how dare that bitch" rage. It's like uncut cocaine straight to the MAGA brain.

There you go. Now that's a troll post right there.


Good luck with that. Let us know how its works out for you.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

https://conspirator0.substack.com
An essential follow on the topic.

Mind pasting substack links as they go bonkers like Kinja links.

[viscousmemories]

This is straight out of Putin's playbook in Russia, where [...] media cynically provided dozens of conflicting versions of reality without regard for their factual basis, in order to undermine people's faith in any sort of fact-based reality.

Thank god that would never happen in the USA!

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Well, unless it involves cocaine found in the White House

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

“Here’s twelve conflicting reasons why disinformation isn’t a thing!”

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Go buy a paper or read here! Wonderful to be interviewed by @phoebeluckhurst & photographed by Sane Seven.

Trolls are the price of investigating and exposing world of social media, conspiracies and hate! Grateful to editors and teams who support me. https://t.co/LVn5akWT4k

— Marianna Spring (@mariannaspring) August 6, 2023

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Originally Posted by Kamilah Hauptmann

Fake "liberal" Twitter account exposed: We should worry less about AI and more about human stupidity | Salon.com

Stolen quote from elsewhere:

It's not Putin's playbook. He didn't come up with this.

I just read an article on this very problem or tactic, or horrific state of affairs. It's a tool of war actually.

Online, in forums, I call it chaff, from the practice that was originally called Window or Düppel, where aircraft drop metal strips to confuse or cloud or completely obscure radar returns. Meaning the radar operator can't tell what's actually going on.

It's very effective, both to radar, as well as anyone with limited time and attention online. Ping flooding, as well as spamming also obscures and drowns out real information. I observed this when I first ventured into online "forums" back in 1996.

Before radar it would be smoke, to obscure seeing the action on a battlefield, or in a naval battle. Fucking with other peoples ability to observe is a very old tool of fighting. False information is just as old.

The US and Britain are masters of the tactic.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

The New Propaganda - Summary of a length article about coordination between authoritarians.

Article:
Russia and China Are Winning the Propaganda War - The Atlantic

[JoeP]

Originally Posted by Kamilah Hauptmann

The New Propaganda - Summary of a length article about coordination between authoritarians.

Article:
Russia and China Are Winning the Propaganda War - The Atlantic

Their goal is to persuade their own people to stay out of politics, and above all to convince them that there is no democratic alternative: Our state may be corrupt, but everyone else is corrupt too. You may not like our leader, but the others are worse. You may not like our society, but at least we are strong. The democratic world is weak, degenerate, divided, dying.

That’s an excerpt from my most recent Atlantic cover story, The New Propaganda War, which is in turn an excerpt from my new book, Autocracy Inc which will be published in July.

That’s an excerpt from Anne Applebaum's article on Substack, which is in turn an excerpt from her most recent Atlantic cover story, The New Propaganda War, which is in turn an excerpt from her new book, Autocracy Inc which will be published in July.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Gonna torrent the book for us, right?

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Soft Paywall: Democracy is in peril because ‘both sides’ journalists let MAGA spread disinformation | Opinion

That’s the hill you’re planting your fair and balanced flag on? Our former Republican vice president’s daughter Liz Cheney deserves to be heard. Her fellow former GOP Rep. Adam Kinzinger deserves to be heard. Past GOP presidential candidate Sen. Mitt Romney deserves to be heard. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene does not.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

The "Need for Chaos" Voter

[viscousmemories]

From the article and the abstract of the study, I think "voter" is a bit presumptuous.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Seems I got the right thrad then.

[LarsMac]

"The Fire next time "