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05-22-2024, 08:50 PM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
Lazy journalism from The Grauniad to dub it “a gamble”. True, it’s mostly the case that a PM who calls an election earlier than expected is banking on things going against them in the the longer term. But what’s the gamble here—that there’s not some amazing event going to occur between July and next January capable of restoring Tory fortunes at the ballot box?
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05-22-2024, 08:53 PM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
Sun article in 4 years. LABOUR RUINED BRITAIN! NEVER AGAIN!
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05-22-2024, 10:31 PM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
It's Labour's turn now. Many of those who vowed, "I'll never vote Labour again, as long as I live", back in 2007, have either forgotten their vow, or died.
And it's likely that in another eight years or so, the people who are currently saying the same about the present Tory government will do the same.
People vote out the current crappy government in the hope that the current opposition, "can't be any worse." In a two party dominated system, this leads to the alternation of the governing party, on average every two electoral terms.
Some voters are naive enough to believe that the current opposition will actually do a great job in government, but most older voters are jaded enough to not really expect much.
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05-22-2024, 11:11 PM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
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Originally Posted by mickthinks
Lazy journalism from The Grauniad to dub it “a gamble”. True, it’s mostly the cast that a PM who calls an election earlier than expected is banking on things going against them in the the longer term. But what’s the gamble here—that there’s not some amazing event going to occur between July and next January capable of restoring Tory fortunes at the ballot box?
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Quite. It's not a gamble, it's a tacit admission that things aren't going to get better between July and next January.
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05-23-2024, 07:34 PM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
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Haha Stupid Britishers! Don't they know that's a holiday?
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05-23-2024, 07:42 PM
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Solipsist
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Re: Get Brexit Done
Oh, the Independence (from the Tories) Day jokes are already flowing
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05-23-2024, 11:57 PM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
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Originally Posted by mickthinks
Lazy journalism from The Grauniad to dub it “a gamble”. True, it’s mostly the case that a PM who calls an election earlier than expected is banking on things going against them in the the longer term. But what’s the gamble here—that there’s not some amazing event going to occur between July and next January capable of restoring Tory fortunes at the ballot box?
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That was my exact thought as well. Like, I don't get all the intricate calculations of why British elections are called early and the calendar mysteries, but it seems like there are only a few reasons to call one early: (1) bring your own party into line; (2) take advantage of a weak opposition; or (3) minimize the damage because things are only going to get worse for you before the scheduled election.
Let's not pretend he can bring the party into line, and with Labour running 20 points ahead...
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06-10-2024, 11:50 PM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
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08-08-2024, 04:34 PM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
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09-02-2024, 09:29 PM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
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09-29-2024, 06:36 PM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
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10-27-2024, 12:22 PM
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Now in six dimensions!
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Re: Get Brexit Done
I do think there's a reasonable case that MP compensation - both during and after the role - is insufficient to attract people we'd actually want to do the job. Especially given the loss of privacy and real risks to personal and family safety becoming an MP can entail.
There's a reason so many of them come from inherited wealth or are 'career' politicians.
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10-27-2024, 10:53 PM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
While I agree in principle I think my objection is the:
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Sunderland agreed that politics also plays a role in trying to get a job outside the Commons, saying he has been rejected for roles because he was an ex-Conservative MP.
“I have been turned down for jobs over the last three months, jobs which I was perfect for”, he said.
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That's too god damned bad.
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“In my case, 26 years in the Army, four-and-a-half years as an MP, I'd never been unemployed. I've never had a CV. I never was on LinkedIn, this is stuff we have to do from complete scratch.
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You're a career Army man, so yeah, I suppose you never needed a CV.
But yes, just like any other job an unemployment benefit is in order.
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11-05-2024, 11:36 PM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
Nigerian talk show television
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12-04-2024, 07:14 PM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
That's the kinda shit that happens when you declare that you don't want to play with the other kids.
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12-04-2024, 07:36 PM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
Can't see Finland on that map either
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12-04-2024, 07:47 PM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
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Can't see Finland on that map either
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Two meters apart perkele please.
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12-04-2024, 08:13 PM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
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Can't see Finland on that map either
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12-07-2024, 09:46 AM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
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12-07-2024, 12:05 PM
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Solipsist
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Re: Get Brexit Done
Meanwhile on the capitalism side, privatised water companies in the UK continue to dump untreated sewage, fail to fix leaks, and beg for government handouts. Thames Water is up for sale.
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12-07-2024, 02:46 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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Re: Get Brexit Done
I saw a news report about a water company wanting to build a new pipeline from a sewage treatment works. When there's a lot of rain, the works currently discharges untreated sewage to a nearby river that has been classified as a site of scientific interest. The idea of the cross-country pipeline is to divert the untreated sewage to a different river, that doesn't have the same classification.
You might think it would be better just to increase the capacity of the works, so it could treat all the sewage - but apparently that would cost more than the pipeline, and the water company wants to pursue the cheapest solution.
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01-08-2025, 08:40 AM
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Re: Get Brexit Done
but I'm not going to a Daily Fail page
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