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As the rhetoric of war intensifies, here is a reminder about the human cost.

While U.S.-Russia Posture over Ukraine, Ukrainians Suffer - Rolling Stone
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Putin may or may not have held back until the end of the Winter Olympics as a favour to his kind-of buddy Xi, but he's making moves now.

Earlier today: Putin "recognised the independence" of breakaway regions in eastern Ukraine, ie laid claim to bits of Ukraine's Luhansk and Donetsk regions that have not yet been effectively invaded by Russian forces over the past few years.

More recently: Putin orders troops into Donetsk and Luhansk on ‘peacekeeping duties’, ie carries out the invasion that he's been denying for weeks and that the US and allies have been conducting an information blitz warning about.

Horde your natural gas, fellow Europeans.
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Jack's latest dispatch from Ukraine. (A couple days old so doesn't address the new developments).

Their Ukraine Town Is on the Front Lines. They Won't Give Up on It - Rolling Stone
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Vladimir Putin is already battering Ukraine economically | The Economist

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Vyacheslav Steshenko, a businessman in Kyiv, first noticed a drop-off in customers visiting his restaurant chains a few weeks ago. Perhaps this was normal, he thought: a new covid-19 variant was ripping through Ukraine, so people must be staying home. Then he heard from colleagues in the industry that restaurants in Lviv, Ukraine’s westernmost city, near the border with Poland, were filling up with out-of-towners “from Kyiv, Kharkiv, Zaporizhia”–places closer to Russia. Next Mr Steshenko noticed that his petrol stations had sold out of 20-litre gas canisters, the largest size.

Ukraine is not in the middle of a full-blown panic, Mr Steshenko stresses. But the remarkable calm shown by ordinary Ukrainians throughout the months-long crisis with Russia is starting to dissipate. The news suggesting a possible Russian invasion grows more unnerving by the day. That, in turn, is having a dire effect on the economy, which is “already being strangled”, in the words of a diplomat. Conflict with Russia cost Ukraine $280bn between 2014 and 2020, according to one estimate. But the damage from the past few months is of a different order.
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Ukraine might have suffered even more had Mr Zelensky not played down the risk of an invasion until recently. His nonchalance may yet come back to haunt him. It may also have left millions of Ukrainians mentally unprepared for what seems to be on the way. But it kept Ukrainians going to work and living normal lives in a way that has astounded many foreign observers.
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Well, shit.

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Luckily we have a bloke named Boris in charge here in Londonistan to deal with the Russians. He pretends to be more concerned about defending Ukraine's borders than he is about the UK's own.
I'm sure he's privately very happy about the invasion: how could people think of getting rid of him over something as trivial as Party gate while there's a war going on?
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Jebus he's going to attempt some sort of Churchillian speech or something.
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We shall fight them on Tottenham Court Road,
We shall fight them in Harrods!

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The company where I work was using a team of Ukrainian developers until very recently. I had never heard of Lviv until my co-worker told me he lived there. One other guy lived near there, and all the others were in Kiev. A woman posted a harrowing video on TikTok of her moving to her basement while shelling was going on outside her house but when I looked again last night the video was gone. Another woman I found on TikTok who works as a translator and former English teacher is doing her best to give live analysis from Ukraine. I'm sure there are many more that I haven't found.

Oh and Jack Crosbie (the aforementioned journalist on the ground in Ukraine for Rolling Stone) was on The Majority Report to give an update.

Climate Prisons; Russia's Ukraine Moves w/ Alleen Brown; Jack Crosbie - 2/22/22 | MR Live - YouTube
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Not touching that airspace.

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One of the things Russia might do, in the escalation of sanctions, is ban commercial flights over its airspace. Which would be a bit of a pain for Finnair.
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I have a strong suspicion poorly-targeted cyber-attacks might bring down chunks of the global Internet, or the whole thing for some undefined time. (Russia have carried out significant cyber-attacks on Ukrainian infrastructure over the past few years.)

In which case it was nice knowing all you guys.
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It already took me about 10 minutes to access Flightradar24, and while I was waiting I was banned by Cloudfare on their site on one computer.
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Meanwhile Trump is doing his part by splitting the Republican party,
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“That’s the strongest peace force I’ve seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. There’re going to keep peace alright.” Tells me two things, one in a darker timeline we would be sending our peace keeping storm troopers to help Russia’s peace keeping tanks, and second is that they smartly kept Trump away from large numbers of US tanks.
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A very interesting piece of background from Giles Fraser (of "OccupyLSX" and "Leave" fame):

Putin's spiritual destiny - UnHerd

From the linkHis mother baptised him in secret, and he still wears his baptismal cross. Since he became President, Putin has cast himself as the true defender of Christians throughout the world, the leader of the Third Rome....
“The spiritual choice made by St Vladimir still largely determines our affinity today” Putin wrote only last year. “In the words of Oleg the Prophet about Kyev, “let it be the mother of all Russian cities”.
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Fake Ukraine video includes footage from 2015 and a computer game teaser - Full Fact

I'm sure this kind of thing is no surprise to anyone here.
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This lady is so badass!

“Take these seeds and put them in your pockets, so at least sunflowers will grow when you all lie down here,” she said.
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I think we should send sunflower seeds to Putin. Or slip them secretly into his pocket in some kind of a sneaky pacifist assassin move.
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"Russian warship, go fuck yourself."
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More than 1,700 detained at anti-war protests in Russia – POLITICO
Russia Arrests More Than 1,700 Anti-War Protesters Amid Ukraine Invasion | HuffPost UK World News

(a) There appear to be huge protests against the war by Russian citizens
(b) The Russian government are not going to put up with that
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An open letter from Russian scientists and science journalists against the war with Ukraine - EU Reporter
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