LotR Mafia - Game Thread - Page 5

Gonzo · #**101** 05-11-2010, 09:21 PM

vote Demi

We support your boobage kickage

beyelzu · #**102** 05-11-2010, 09:27 PM

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To be clear, I want an active player to be mayor and someone who isn't campaigning for the job. I think it would be a mistake to randomly assign the mayor.

I never suggested that we pick blind or that we should pick an inactive, I suggested that we should pick someone who isn't campaigning.

There is a big difference there. Ideally, it should also be someone who is easy to read as well, so for me, es is out.

And to my ears, this is exactly the kind of non-campaigning campaigning someone who actually wants the job would do. I'm not convinced that only Nazgul would want to be mayor. Especially if the mayor gets a big ol' target painted on the back.

If Nazgul wanted to be mayor, then they'd have to open themselves as nightkill targets. But, then if they were truly scum, they couldn't be nightkilled.

So, not entirely sure how being mayor benefits the Nazgul.

I do see how the mayor is a ripe target, but that's not the same thing.

that is some seriously tortured logic. the mayor gets pocket contents of the lynch victims. the nightkillers get the pocket contents of their victims. the nazgul want the ring. it doubles their chances of getting the ring.

deliberately misunderstanding wei?

plus I dont want to be mayor. I died early last game and it sucked. so i am not campaigning without campaigning, captain wifom..

beyelzu · #**103** 05-11-2010, 09:36 PM

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At the very least, let's consider giving the job to someone who isn't all-fired and clamoring for it. That's this hobbit's opinion, at any rate.

Didn't I say that? I'm not terribly fond of the random idea myself, I'm just putting something out there besides "give it to this hobbit or that hobbit."

I'm certainly more comfortable giving it to a random person than to someone who comes racing for it like a prize at a fair. Better than that, though, let's look for someone steady and level-headed who isn't day-dreaming about tie-breaking and pocket rifling.

Where have I disagreed with that sentiment? I thank you kindly for offering other solutions to one of our quandaries here this day, I simply disagree that it is the best answer to the same. These are dark times and we flail about blindly as things are now. Every moment that passes He Who Shan't Be Named gathers his own power and those he has corrupted to himself. We cannot leave our victory to the random chance of casting lots. Our time may be short but the reason of Man bolstered by the spirit of Hobbit can light the way but only if we heed their call.

To such, I repeat my query so that it is not lost:

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What is your clan name Hobbit Nightson? Is it Proudfoot? Because you talk like one of them. Your offer of free pipeweed, tempting though it is, is irrelevent. We can open our back doors and scoop it from the field free as we please already. And why cast your suspicion on fragment? Has fragment done you wrong somehow already? My humble Hobbit's eyes are watching you very closely, sir. I should expect a good answer for such early, unfounded, accusations. Consider yourself suspect to me, sir!

And I further add the following for beyelzu and Demimonde:

Should the vote be in your favor, would you lead? Know that you will be targeted by evil forces and possibly be tempted to corruption yourself should the Ring itself fall to you in addition to having to prove yourself to the good Hobbit-folk of this Shire to be worthy of their selection and respect.

No. I really dont think I should be mayor.

wei yau · #**104** 05-11-2010, 09:37 PM

Never credit deviousness, when stupidity will suffice, bey.

My question is simply if the mayor is an obvious nightkill target, as has been theorized, then a Nazgul mayor would be pretty obvious since they'd never get targeted.

It just seems that a Nazgul mayor seems like a good idea on paper, but perhaps not so much in practice.

oh and captain wifom....lol....good one.

beyelzu · #**105** 05-11-2010, 09:52 PM

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Never credit deviousness, when stupidity will suffice, bey.

My question is simply if the mayor is an obvious nightkill target, as has been theorized, then a Nazgul mayor would be pretty obvious since they'd never get targeted.

It just seems that a Nazgul mayor seems like a good idea on paper, but perhaps not so much in practice.

oh and captain wifom....lol....good one.

doubles chance of getting ring and could be worth the risk. No way of knowing without knowing what the ring does for scum.

Nightson · #**106** 05-11-2010, 09:53 PM

Okay.

This is what I propose.

Let's table the mayor talk for a week. After a week, people vote for whoever they feel is most pro-town.

BrotherMan · #**107** 05-11-2010, 09:56 PM

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And I further add the following for beyelzu and Demimonde:

Should the vote be in your favor, would you lead?

No. I really dont think I should be mayor.

All very good, then. I can view as suspect anyone's reasons for wanting to be the mayor it does not mean I do not wish for that person to become mayor nor that I would not vote for that person. I at least appreciate the more meaningful responses we're receiving from hobbitus drusus over the just becauses of the others. I now await Hobbitmonde's response before considering the options.

fragment · #**108** 05-11-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightson

Okay.

This is what I propose.

Let's table the mayor talk for a week. After a week, people vote for whoever they feel is most pro-town.

Delaying the vote is fine, but I don't think we should quit talking about it. Talking is good for town, and this mayor business got us scumhunting right out of the block, without spending a few RL days on pointless random voting. In a timed game that's important.

Crumb · #**109** 05-11-2010, 10:22 PM

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Okay.

This is what I propose.

Let's table the mayor talk for a week. After a week, people vote for whoever they feel is most pro-town.

But who should be mayor talk is giving much more interesting conversation than we normally have at this point on day 1. :yup:

So no point in stopping now.

Kael · #**110** 05-11-2010, 10:27 PM

Definitely. The mayoral debate is provoking way more involvement for Day 1. Let's keep this up.

Incidentally, I'm being roped into some most un-hobbit like work, so do be so kind as to not actually do anything for the next six hours or so. I know I can count on you true hobbits out there.

Crumb · #**111** 05-11-2010, 10:28 PM

May your feet remain hairy!

BrotherMan · #**112** 05-11-2010, 10:32 PM

No True Hobbitses fallacy up in here! :freakout:

Nightson · #**113** 05-11-2010, 10:36 PM

I do not find mayor discussion to be productive, in fact I think it's hurtful to the town. Why it could be harmful to the town is pretty obvious.

Megatron · #**114** 05-11-2010, 10:46 PM

Yeahhhh, there's no fucking way I'd randomly vote on the mayor.

I like the Demi train.

vote: Demimonde

Now, let's get this sorted and behind us so we can get on with the rest of the game, shall we?

livius drusus · #**115** 05-11-2010, 10:59 PM

What's the rush?

Megatron · #**116** 05-11-2010, 11:01 PM

Hmm, I missed a few posts (teach me to leave the window open)

Not a bad idea, Nightson.

unvote

I'm eyeballing liv for wanting to be mayor while actively denying interest in the searching of pocketses, as well as bey for thinking anyone who wants the mantle is automatically scum.

Crumb · #**117** 05-11-2010, 11:02 PM

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I do not find mayor discussion to be productive, in fact I think it's hurtful to the town. Why it could be harmful to the town is pretty obvious.

Care to explain to us that are too slow to see the obvious? :dopey:

BrotherMan · #**118** 05-11-2010, 11:02 PM

I think they're afraid to hunt the Hunters. True enough the Nazgul are frightening in their, well, normal unnatural state. We have little to fear from them in the daytime. Perhaps the good Hobbits of this Hobbiton seek a momentary distraction before they face that terror.

Megatron · #**119** 05-11-2010, 11:02 PM

Oh, and unvote.

BrotherMan · #**120** 05-11-2010, 11:05 PM

Putting my post into its proper context.

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What's the rush?

I think they're afraid to hunt the Hunters. True enough the Nazgul are frightening in their, well, normal unnatural state. We have little to fear from them in the daytime. Perhaps the good Hobbits of this Hobbiton seek a momentary distraction before they face that terror.

Nightson · #**121** 05-11-2010, 11:14 PM

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I do not find mayor discussion to be productive, in fact I think it's hurtful to the town. Why it could be harmful to the town is pretty obvious.

Care to explain to us that are too slow to see the obvious? :dopey:

Scum want the ring. Townie want the ring. Power roles do not want the ring. Speculation and excessive talking of the mayorship and who wants it could hint at power roles, such information is not valuable to the town but very valuable to the scum.

Demimonde · #**122** 05-11-2010, 11:15 PM

I am touched that I am even being considered. I will say that I am not enthused at the prospect of it. It sounds like work and danger for a little hobbit like me, and my old gaffer used to say that a hobbit should know their place. I wouldn't have put my wooly toe in the ring as it is a big responsibility and I doubted anyone would want it on my little shoulders.

All that said, I don't think I could in good conscience refuse. I am Shire and these are dark days. I can't let my fear for myself overcome what is good for The Shirefolk. I have a bit of Took in me, and if you call me to lead, I'll lean ony Tookish forebearers for strength.

BrotherMan · #**123** 05-11-2010, 11:22 PM

That's right brave of you, dear Demimonde. Why, if ol' What's His Name had been a Hobbit - or had true Hobbit parentage, none of this would be a worry now would it? Pipeweed all day and fireworks all the night and enough to stuff ten Hobbit bellies per Hobbit is how life would be!

Deadlokd · #**124** 05-11-2010, 11:23 PM

Adam, I voted for liv for Mayor back on page one.

My untrained and badly made scumdar is going off at a few peeps here.

bey, what do you know that you're scared of liv riffling through pockets? What will she find that will harm you? Do you have a real reason or is this just a continuation of the liv-beyelzu War?

Nightson, you wanting to stop this very fruitful discussion is really suspicious too. This is all good stuff, why stop it? Same to Megatron.

Nightson · #**125** 05-11-2010, 11:28 PM

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Nightson, you wanting to stop this very fruitful discussion is really suspicious too. This is all good stuff, why stop it? Same to Megatron.

You could try reading my post wherein I say exactly why.