Winnie the Flu

[Dragar]

UK mortality data from Office of National Statistics. Impact is pretty clear (and I wonder how high it would have got without a lockdown?).

[lisarea]

Rest in peace to all those hypoxia victims.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Ari

I don’t think news papers are science, but if they were, all good science contains error bars, and +-1 per 100,000 seems fine enough, especially for a news paper.

The news paper got the information from the government regulated scientific medical community.

You dolt.

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Dragar

UK mortality data from Office of National Statistics. Impact is pretty clear (and I wonder how high it would have got without a lockdown?).

According to the mainstream it would have spiked and then had a dramatic drop off.

That was the whole point to 'flattening the curve'. Stretching out the problem to relive the medical infrastructure.

[Jerome]

How Fear, Groupthink Drove Unnecessary Global Lockdowns | RealClearPolitics

[ChuckF]

Much higher for the 100,000 people murdered by Donald Trump though.

lmao Trump musing aloud whether he should be using insulin, that nutty senile murderer.

[Dragar]

Originally Posted by Jerome

According to the mainstream it would have spiked and then had a dramatic drop off.

Why would it have a 'dramatic' drop off?

Crude epidemic models follow a logistic curve. I've heard logistic functions called many things (some not so pleasant when they're under an integral), but dramatic has never been one of them.

[Stephen Maturin]

Originally Posted by ChuckF

lmao Trump musing aloud whether he should be using insulin, that nutty senile murderer.

You could not feel more superfluous in terms of making fun of the president because the Trump administration is an 18-wheeler full of monkeys and PCP that has crashed into a train full of diarrhea, and so there’s diarrhea-covered monkeys on PCP running around and everyone is just watching it like, "Oh my god!" And then you as a comedian walk up and go, "Hey, do you want to hear a joke I wrote about this?" And they’re like, "No, I’m good. There’s nine jokes in my head. You can go take a break. This is playing itself out perfectly."

~ Patton Oswalt

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by Dragar

Why would it have a 'dramatic' drop off?

Because that was the point of flattening the curve, to spread out the medical needs of a population over time, instead of the medical system consuming those needs in a short period.

Had there been no flattening of the curve, all the cases would have inundated the medical services. This is the story. The story told was there would have been a dramatic drop off, but lots would die because medical resources became scarce.

Its the same amount of emergency care, either now, or over time.

Spread the resources over time, this was the gimmick. Thus the medical services were not overwhelmed.

What is happening now has nothing to do with flatting the curve. You were lied to, just now, but you still want to believe. Just now, right after you were lied to.

[beyelzu]

Stories from the trauma bay: COVID-19 Mythbusting

Here is a great big list of debunked covid myths, jerome has probably professed quite a few of these.

Make a bingo board when reading denialist literature

[Jerome]

Originally Posted by beyelzu

yOU ARE ALL GOING TO DIE SOON, ITS COMING, JUST LIKE THE 9/11 TERRORISTS, AND THE SCHOOL SHOOTERS, YOU ARE GOING TO DIE SOON, BELIEVE, I HAVE SCIENCE AND THE GOVERNMENT CORPORATE NEWS TO BACK ME UP

lol, tool

\\

[ChuckF]

ummm, bingo

[Jerome]

lmao

How many of you are for open borders during this pandemic?

How many of you, wearing face masks whilst shopping, will deny immigrants access to your country?

You dumb fucks are stuck. ROTFLMFAO

The elite are mocking you!!111!!

[Jerome]

Remember, you argued, for the last two decades, that checking for disease was racist.

[ChuckF]

I mean it makes a lot of sense for countries to close their borders to Americans, if they don't want Trump murdering them like he has murdered 100,000 Americans so far.

Also, has really never had a flat earther with a thread? Did I miss it or have I forgotten it?

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Originally Posted by Jerome

The earth is flat.

Not sure if counts but, 20 or more pages. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[ChuckF]

Jerome doesn't really count because his commitment is superficial. I kind of want a true believer willing to go the distance.

(I think this, combined with how intimidated he was by her intellect, is one reason Jerome did not become the next Mr. peacegirl )

ETA: Actually that is not bad. I don't pay attention to that thread. Pleasantly surprised, recalls some of his better birther moments.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Wasn't a bad cosplay at all.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

if we only keep one thing from this pandemic, i hope it’s priests with water pistols pic.twitter.com/2LNCjqEFtc

— beth (@bethbourdon) May 24, 2020

[ChuckF]

ugh, we have to keep priests?

[Qingdai]

Only if they keep their distance, because THAT'S been an issue

[BrotherMan]

how intimidated he was by her intellect

[Dragar]

Originally Posted by Jerome

Because that was the point of flattening the curve...

So you're explaining nature by appealing to the goals of our actions? Then you talk about 'flattening the curve', but there's no dramatic fall in such a scenario (a gently rolling hill is much less dramatic than a mountain!).

You're really all over the place here.


You're right that governments are no longer just trying to flatten the curve, but instead contain the virus like South Korea - the death toll would have been politically suicidal even if there were ethical justifications for that course.

[Kamilah Hauptmann]

Misc: How the coronavirus spreads in those everyday places we visit - The Salt Lake Tribune

[JoeP]

We'll be back

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Thinks ... should I get a vpn to bypass all these stupid rules? Or should I continue to ignore such worthless sites?

I mean the GDPR has been in force for 2 years (and 2 days) - and was adopted 2 years before that - you fuckers have not been "working with lawyers" all that time. More to the point, the California Consumer Privacy Act came into force 5 months ago and is substantially the same. Is this Salt Lake Tribune rag accessible in California? If so, no reason not to make it accessible in the Eu. Y'all are just lazy and parochial.



I mean ... was there anything interesting in the article?