Miscellany

[Watser?]

Oh yeah, I saw that. Does that mean we can have Florida now?

[Qingdai]

You can have it, but that also means you get crazy Cubans and their hangers on. Plus the English like to vacation there.

[Watser?]

Actually they like to drink and smoke pot all over Amsterdam anyways, can't be worse than that.

[Qingdai]

Imagine them when they're not relaxed from being high, and sun burnt.

IT'S THAT BAD.

[Gonzo]

Terriers are SMRT. You just have to reward them when they have followed a command. The more dogs you have, though, the harder it is to teach them shit, especially because they steal food from eachother and all that. So if you're going to teach him stuff, you're gonna have to ground the other dog to his bedroom. You should make a thread to gauge progress, too, cause that'd be cool.

[Demimonde]

I will say that pibbles in my experience are people pleasers more than wirehairs for some reason. In addition, Buddy is an old man. Not to say you can't teach an old dog new tricks, but that he has had the experience of working and training humans and in a new environment will take advantage.

Is he toy or food driven? Betting on what you have said, I'm betting he is attention driven. Which is a double edged sword because bad attention is as well as good. I'm glad he's adjusted and not so skittish but now is the time for manners.

Sylvie was a growler. Shortly after we got her it was evident, after she settled in and stopped being moonfaced grateful and needy. Then, any time she was laying down and I needed her to move, she would hedge in and curl her lip at me. If I insisted, she would growl, even snap. Slowly, I gained her trust by sitting next to her and touching her- not petting just touching- while she went through her routine. Once she realized I wasn't going to hurt her, I began to use a command whenever the lip started to curl, in her case "uggies". Then I would pet her. After she got it, it was all show and she was hamming it up I would tell her to do it in other circumstances. She would oblige and I'd reward her. It is quite the comical show now. But she stopped doing it when I need her to move. Now I can say "move" and she gets it.

I know you'll reach Mr. Buddy. Love will win him over.

[Ymir's blood]

[Ensign Steve]

Originally Posted by lisarea

I do have to admit, though, it's kind of hilarious when he's being naughty, so I can also see the temptation to let him act like that just for the lulz.

Just go with it, dude. The lulz are totally worth it.

[lisarea]

Originally Posted by Gonzo

Terriers are SMRT. You just have to reward them when they have followed a command. The more dogs you have, though, the harder it is to teach them shit, especially because they steal food from eachother and all that. So if you're going to teach him stuff, you're gonna have to ground the other dog to his bedroom. You should make a thread to gauge progress, too, cause that'd be cool.

If you have normal dogs, yeah, but happily, Z is not a normal dog. She's not overly submissive at all, but she does submit to smaller animals like kitties and bunnies and obnoxious little old men like Buddy. She is food motivated herself, but if she's sitting on the couch next to someone with chips or cheeseballs or something, Buddy will walk right over her and even sit on her head if that gives him the best access, and she'll just lie there extra still so she doesn't disturb him.

He will pick on her, steal her food, and literally walk all over her, and she just lets him. We separate them to eat because he will inhale his food, then stick his head in her bowl and eat hers too if we give him the chance. And no matter how stinky and sloppy and deliciously high value her food is, she'll just back off and let him have it.

And one of the main things is that he needs to tone down his picking on her. I'm OK with them sorting out their boundaries and their relationship for the most part, and I do hold her to higher standards because she's smarter and bigger and stronger. But Buddy's really taking too much advantage of her good nature.

Mostly I guess it comes down to him needing to learn a decent stay and a leave it, but it's complicated by the deafness, so I have to figure out how to get his attention first.

Which reminds me, when we're on walks, ZZ does act sort of as his hearing ear dog, so when I give her one of her many weird commands, like sidewalk (get back on the sidewalk and stop your snorflin') or jaywalk (cross this intersection diagonally), she'll gently nudge him into compliance.

So Buddy is a little difficult, I suppose, but I think part of the reason it's so daunting is that ZZ, while certainly not perfect, is so ridiculously easy and I'm spoiled by just being able to talk to her like she's a human and have her a) understand pretty quickly, and b) do what I tell her.

[LadyShea]

Buddy may be very used to being an only dog, or at least the head dog in charge of the house. We fostered this Keeshond one time, that acted like he owned the place because he had been completely spoiled and coddled by his owner (the owner had died). It was mostly doggie hierarchy type stuff like trying to get out the door first, or lay down in the best spot that Aurora had staked out as hers. Aurora was having none of it, and she tried her best to kick that dogs ass almost daily. Luckily it was just a lot of flying fur but I was happy when I found him a forever-home (and she loved the dickens out of the dog).

Aurora and Duck would still fight over food if I didn't separate them. Aurora is old, and very weak, but still scrappy like she was as a starving stray. She starts growling if Duck even looks at her food through the french door separating them.

We tried to let them work out most of their differences. Duck is a mountain of sweet dog, and will try to get away, but Aurora will not back off once she gets going. Duck would eventually have no choice but to defend himself and he is huge, and the fights got nasty enough for me to call it a lost cause and simply separate them for meals.

So, ZZ is not like Aurora at all...she is more like Duck, just go with the flow. You may have no choice but to intervene to an extent, as unchecked Buddy may push even ZZ's far off boundaries if allowed to...ya know?

[livius drusus]

Originally Posted by lisarea

It is what it is.

You guys, my mom said that on the phone yesterday. It's getting worse. WHO WILL RID ME OF THIS TURBULENT PHRASE?

[livius drusus]

eta I answered that here so as not to spooge up Shea's Important Thrad any more than that agent lisacateur already has.

[Sonoma Bear]

agent lisacateur

If it is what it is, then that must surely mean that it isn't what it isn't - right?

[lisarea]

Take a hint, mr. drusus. Your mother is trying to tell you that you're boring and she's sick of your incessant nattering on topics that are of NO IMPORT WHATSOEVER.

Originally Posted by livius drusus

eta I answered that here so as not to spooge up Shea's Important Thrad any more than that agent lisacateur already has.

Ha! Fine. I will go spooge up Lady Gaga's thrad TWICE AS MUCH now to make up for your restraint.

[viscousmemories]

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[Doctor X]

["Poof!"--Ed.]

[Demimonde]

I forgot about Buddy's deafness. That does complicate things a bit. I know you'll master it though.

We had issues with food stealing when we first got Sylvie. She would inhale her food like a pig and then bug Dante so he would have to defend it with a growl. But she would submit and just stare sadly, as if to say "Why do you feed him more than me? I'm starving! You love him more don't you!? Not fair!" I would supervise their eating on different sides of the Kitchen until things changed. Slowly I moved the bowls so that they ate side by side, shoulder to shoulder. They focus on the food not each other.

After she went 180 degrees. Now she eats slooooooowly. Daintily even. Dante finishes before she does. A year ago Dante was getting pudgy and I realized that he was finishing her food. Greedy little bugger. I had to go through the whole routine all over again, but starting in different rooms. Because one stare from Dante would make her walk away from the bowl. I was firm in telling him it was not going to fly and make a line that he was not going to cross. Then same thing, moving it closer and closer. Now we are back to eating side by side and happy for our kibble and respecting each other. So i don't have to supervise anymore thank goodness.

[Demimonde]

Alright, got bored of the giraffes and found another Manet Manipulation by Mel Ramos. Updated Olympia

[ceptimus]

Originally Posted by viscousmemories

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[Sonoma Bear]

Could you help me please, I'm looking for warts and lice?

[Ensign Steve]

In your motherfuckin' face, motherfuckers!

iNTj: Mastermind
You share a basic personality configuration with Jean-Luc Picard and Seven of Nine.

Myers Briggs and Star Trek

[lisarea]

lol why did I even look at that? I don't even know that stuff.

It said Worf for me, but I got all confused and thought they meant those ape guys, but those are "wookies" from that other, different Star Tracks.

So just shut up from now on, Ensign Steve. Your shit is all fucked up.

[LadyShea]

Hah, I got Capt. James T. Kirk!

eNFp: Champion
You share a basic personality configuration with James Kirk and Julian Bashir.

People like you are generally great problem-solvers. You're highly innovative, creative and unique. You're optimistic by nature, which may make others believe you're naive, but actually you're full of energy, very clever, and determined not to be stopped. You're outgoing, curious, and extremely playful. Others are sometimes taken aback by your enthusiasm, but it keeps you going after others have dropped.

You're deeply caring, sensitive and gentle, which, combined with your need to solve problems, may make you a little too eager to give others advice. You also process information very quickly, which may make others believe you're not listening to them. Before you share your feelings, you have to have time to process them.

You're adaptive and resourceful, but sometimes highly disorganized. You dream of having the perfect assistant. You respond best to people who encourage your unique viewpoints and insights, help you maintain harmony, and want to play and explore with you. You don't respond well when you're overwhelmed with details or when you're in a rigid situation.

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Good careers for your type include being an advertising account executive, starship captain, career counselor, developer of educational software, actor, graphics designer, corporate team trainer, psychologist, inventor, medical pioneer, and child welfare counselor.

[mulebear]

Somewhere I have a photo I took of this hotel.

YouTube - Hotel Borg

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Of course, they forgot to mention that you'll be assimilated.

[Demimonde]

Lol lisa, I am Worf too. But not really surprised.