Fragment, you are just making unverified claims. Where are the scientific peer reviewed papers which shows how all factors excluding the motion of the earth causes the pendulum to change direction according to a predicted path based upon the location on earth?
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For example, Chicago can be seen from Michigan, over 50 miles away, and the curvature calculation based upon the claimed size of the globe says Chicago should be 1,700 feet below the curvature.
I didn't check your math, let's assume you're somewhat correct.
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This Chicago city skyline in this picture looks strange to me. From the lake the Sears (Willis) tower usually looks like 3 boxes of narrowing widths on top of each other. I only see 2 and they're stretched out of proportion. It also seems awfully alone in the skyline - almost like the extremely tall buildings surrounding it are not visible at all!
Does Jerome even understand what he's showing us?
This is a picture of the Chicago skyline from significantly closer.
In Jerome's picture, I'm pretty sure the 3 lights to the right of the Willis Tower is the very top of the AT&T Corporate center, a 1,000 foot tall building.
Jerome's picture doesn't exactly show the city of Chicago cut off at 1700 feet, but it shows it cut off at somewhere around 1,000 feet, and the portion we do see is remarkably elongated, as if the atmosphere is distorting and lensing the image of the city, which would probably explain why we can see more of the city than we should, even assuming Jerome did the math correctly.
So basically, he's trolling, again. I'm not even sure why I bothered.
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Hey, do planes have to consistently fly downwards to keep their altitude, because the earth will curve down and away from them if they fly straight and level.
lol
Gyroscopes disprove a round moving earth.
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I am very interested in why you believe in a moving sphere earth when there is no scientific evidence of such.
Are you willing to defend your belief?
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Ever wonder why "the sky is the limit" is an idiom?
What you are not understanding is that the globe belief has no scientific evidence supporting it, only proclamations from scientism.
Obviously you are both unable and unwilling to defend this, in your mind, self apparent belief.
lol
Do planes fly downwards as they travel? Come on globe believer, this should be easy for such a self apparent "fact" as the moving globe is in your mind.
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I believe the earth is not moving, nor is it a globe.
Yes, I will defend this.
You believe the earth is a moving pear-shaped oblate spheroid, you can't and will not defend your belief.
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I believe the earth is not moving, nor is it a globe.
Yes, I will defend this.
I'm not interested in what you think it is not. I'm interested in what you think it is. You specifically advanced a model of a flat earth with a planetarium-like sky. Are you willing to defend that?
No, I presented an analogy to explain a question some one had.
As is typical with scientism true believers, you can not defend your belief with science, and must immediately move on to dishonest tactics of attacking strawmen.
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I will bet, if you engage, I will have to educate you on what you believe. Most moving globe thinkers don't even understand what they believe.
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All I know for sure is the earth is not a moving sphere.
Maybe you need to ask yourself why you need something to attack instead of being able to defend your certainty in the model you desire is real.
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Basically your position is we all live on a Star Trek holodeck, and are asking others to prove something else is true instead of defending your holodeck belief system.
Any evidence you are not on the holodeck is dismissed from thought by you in favor of trying to attack any alternative.
Ask yourself why you can not rationaly and scientifically evidence you live on a holodeck.
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Do planes on your globe fly straight and level, or do they fly downwards to keep altitude as the earth curves away?
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. ... The origin of myths is explained in this way.
Do planes on your globe fly straight and level, or do they fly downwards to keep altitude as the earth curves away?
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. ... The origin of myths is explained in this way.
Do planes on your globe fly straight and level, or do they fly downwards to keep altitude as the earth curves away?
Altitude relative to what, Jerome?
Any update on this, or are easily answerable questions simply going to be ignored? Also please to point out the "observational science" that points to a stationary earth.
Do planes on your globe fly straight and level, or do they fly downwards to keep altitude as the earth curves away?
Altitude relative to what, Jerome?
Any update on this, or are easily answerable questions simply going to be ignored? Also please to point out the "observational science" that points to a stationary earth.
To the earth. Asking stupid questions shows one's stupidity and exposes that they live in a world of faith, not science.
Your curved earth needs to be accounted for in flight. Curiously, planes fly straight and level. They do not fly downwards to maintain altitude.
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Typical Jerome. Nearly gets caught actually making a positive claim about something and just weasels out of it. I expected as much. Anyone, on with less boring things in this thread.
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Altitude relative to what, Jerome?
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